Looking at the replies on that open ai thread, and how many of people are just going on rooting for ai companies just taking other people’s work without their consent, is alarming, also probably signals that this community might not be for me.
Thank you for everything, and sadly I think I might leave beehaw altogether.
I understand your sentiment, threads on generative AI get me all worked up as well. I couldn’t resist jumping into the fray and I did have the distinct impression that most users supporting OpenAI’s stance were originating from other Lemmy instances and that many Beehaw based users were against it. My humble opinion is that this specific thread is more representative of the Fediverse’s vibe than of Beehaw’s.
I very much doubt you’ll get snark for your comment. That’s just not what Beehaw stands for. If you decide to hang in there some more, I suggest you pay attention to the commenters’ Lemmy instance. Beehaw embodies the hope for a caring web community, but the rest of the Fediverse doesn’t necessarily share the same ideals.
Technology is fun and interesting. AI is interesting and there’s a lot of research going on right now.
But I noticed the same things you do. Many people seem to be “anti-humanity”. We as people need workers protections, better social programs, and more so terrible consequences of these technologies don’t harm us. Technology should be used to help people and societies thrive not for the elite to keep even more power.
Beehaw may not be perfect. And you have a great example of why beehaw should leave the fediverse. But beehaw is the only place I’ve found where we can have civil discussion on topics. Much of the toxicity introduced in beehaw come from non beehaw users. I enjoy my time here, but it’s not for everyone. If you leave, I hope you find a space that’s best for you.
Going to have a look. Not because I don’t believe you, but because it seems so at odds with the usual vibe here that am wondering whether someone unleashed some bot accounts to push this stuff.
If it is regular Beehaw members, that is for sure unnerving!
EDIT: am too dumb at internet to find it. Tried a search (for “ai” to keep it broad), browsing local and looking at subscriptions which aren’t totally incompatible places for such a topic, but coming up blank. Feel free to fling a link my way.
How do you see that? Maybe I came late to that thread after it got moderated, or I subconsciously filter out non-Beehaw users, but is there like a counter I could see?
Under people’s usernames on their comments in a thread.
So like, I recognise you from Beehaw & plenty of other regulars, but underneath “jarfil” it says “beehaw.org”. Useful when skimming a thread to see which instance a given type of view is coming from.
It may be a setting which I enabled at some point - am using the Memmy app.
Being mindful of hijacking the top commenters concerns, I need to hop on a filtering bandwagon, as I don’t want a front page that looks like r/all. Way better here, don’t get me wrong, but does Memmy help you curate your experience?
I blocked a LOT of communities via browser & some via Memmy. I think most via browser as I could search for a topic then block all of the communities that contain that topic in their name.
It is relatively easy to block through Memmy, though you still have to see a post from a community you’re disinterested in seeing in All, then open the community then opt to block it from a drop down menu in the top right. I see in the settings that it is possible to block instances & users, but haven’t tried this yet.
And of course you can choose to avoid All & just view Local or Subscribed.
(Fwiw, also blocked masses of subreddits from appearing on r/all, but definitely have no idea how I did that.)
I’ve actually been having the same thoughts as you. It’s always the pro-AI threads that make me feel this way, as the community is otherwise great. It is my sense that most of the pro-AI comments come from users elsewhere in the Fediverse, but… obviously they can still come here and argue about it, even when the majority of Beehaw is on the side of workers, and I don’t see that changing any time soon.
Looking at the replies on that open ai thread, and how many of people are just going on rooting for ai companies just taking other people’s work without their consent, is alarming, also probably signals that this community might not be for me.
Thank you for everything, and sadly I think I might leave beehaw altogether.
(cue snarky replies, like bye don’t care, etc)
I understand your sentiment, threads on generative AI get me all worked up as well. I couldn’t resist jumping into the fray and I did have the distinct impression that most users supporting OpenAI’s stance were originating from other Lemmy instances and that many Beehaw based users were against it. My humble opinion is that this specific thread is more representative of the Fediverse’s vibe than of Beehaw’s.
I very much doubt you’ll get snark for your comment. That’s just not what Beehaw stands for. If you decide to hang in there some more, I suggest you pay attention to the commenters’ Lemmy instance. Beehaw embodies the hope for a caring web community, but the rest of the Fediverse doesn’t necessarily share the same ideals.
No snark here.
Technology is fun and interesting. AI is interesting and there’s a lot of research going on right now.
But I noticed the same things you do. Many people seem to be “anti-humanity”. We as people need workers protections, better social programs, and more so terrible consequences of these technologies don’t harm us. Technology should be used to help people and societies thrive not for the elite to keep even more power.
Beehaw may not be perfect. And you have a great example of why beehaw should leave the fediverse. But beehaw is the only place I’ve found where we can have civil discussion on topics. Much of the toxicity introduced in beehaw come from non beehaw users. I enjoy my time here, but it’s not for everyone. If you leave, I hope you find a space that’s best for you.
Going to have a look. Not because I don’t believe you, but because it seems so at odds with the usual vibe here that am wondering whether someone unleashed some bot accounts to push this stuff.
If it is regular Beehaw members, that is for sure unnerving!
EDIT: am too dumb at internet to find it. Tried a search (for “ai” to keep it broad), browsing local and looking at subscriptions which aren’t totally incompatible places for such a topic, but coming up blank. Feel free to fling a link my way.
Pretty sure it’s that thread: https://beehaw.org/post/10948276
Cheers.
Majority of participants aren’t from Beehaw.
Bar one person, it seems all of the Beehaw people in the thread have similar concerns to OP.
How do you see that? Maybe I came late to that thread after it got moderated, or I subconsciously filter out non-Beehaw users, but is there like a counter I could see?
Under people’s usernames on their comments in a thread.
So like, I recognise you from Beehaw & plenty of other regulars, but underneath “jarfil” it says “beehaw.org”. Useful when skimming a thread to see which instance a given type of view is coming from.
It may be a setting which I enabled at some point - am using the Memmy app.
Being mindful of hijacking the top commenters concerns, I need to hop on a filtering bandwagon, as I don’t want a front page that looks like r/all. Way better here, don’t get me wrong, but does Memmy help you curate your experience?
My memory is so bad, that am not really sure.
I blocked a LOT of communities via browser & some via Memmy. I think most via browser as I could search for a topic then block all of the communities that contain that topic in their name.
It is relatively easy to block through Memmy, though you still have to see a post from a community you’re disinterested in seeing in All, then open the community then opt to block it from a drop down menu in the top right. I see in the settings that it is possible to block instances & users, but haven’t tried this yet.
And of course you can choose to avoid All & just view Local or Subscribed.
(Fwiw, also blocked masses of subreddits from appearing on r/all, but definitely have no idea how I did that.)
I’ve actually been having the same thoughts as you. It’s always the pro-AI threads that make me feel this way, as the community is otherwise great. It is my sense that most of the pro-AI comments come from users elsewhere in the Fediverse, but… obviously they can still come here and argue about it, even when the majority of Beehaw is on the side of workers, and I don’t see that changing any time soon.