DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.
Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.
Unrelated……
The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.
What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.
This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.
And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
I mean, a concerted effort to lie about known facts in a massive disinformation campaign, is unironically a reason why he is in office now. Though no way they see that context.
We have our very own r/conservative (degrogatory) now.
If they have all this evidence it should have been really easy to follow due process.
The thing is they don’t have enough for a conviction, if they had they would have used it.
I have questions and I don’t know the facts. Was he a non-citizen? Was he sentenced to prison by the US or El Salvador? My understanding is the Constitutional bar for deportation of non-citizens is pretty low, but sentencing someone to prison requires due process. Unless he wasn’t sentenced here, but there.
The dems lost because they support fascist bullshit like the war on “MS-13” and the prison industry. And they’ll continue to support this despite the resistance of a tiny minority of politicians.
The dems are helpless to oppose policies that they support.
Trump won because Elon Musk helped him create fake ballots in swing states.
Is there evidence for this?
Don’t give them so much credit. He won because of voter suppression laws targeting groups who typically vote democrat, and general laziness from democrats resulting in low voter turnout like usual.
Both can be true
So you think the ninety one million people are lazy democrats? Not a single lazy “I refuse to vote in protest” socialist among them?
Wasn’t there also the slight issue of many not bothering to vote at all or not willing to vote for the more democratic candidate over Israel or something? So much drama in the states…
Yeah all those “gEnOciDe” trolls have mystically vanished since then …
I’m no anti electoralist, but people are still protesting the genocide.
There was a specific crowd pretending only democrats could have responsibility for it and that Trump could not be worse
you’re making that up.
No, that’s not what they said, and I still see most of those names posting around Lemmy all the time
Usually saying “toldja”, fun y enough
Either we’re not talking about the same crowd, or you need to work on your reading comprehension
I haven’t gone anywhere. Frankly you’re a piece of shit for implying everybody who cared about gaza was a foreign troll. The fact you’re entirely lacking empathy for foreigners and only care about your own sheltered ass doesn’t mean we’re all like that. Scumbag
What’s happening in palestine is blatantly abhorrent, but voting dem would have ended in a much more favourable outcome (not a good outcome, but better).
that user is always occupying the ever-common Lemmy superposition of dunking relentlessly on people for being pro Palestine, but then if pressed will desperately act like they’re also pro Palestine and claim that it’s your responsibility to prove why they’re not.
This one you’re replying to in particular is also just a chauvinist who loves calling Russians orcs
loves calling Russians orcs
Orcs : (in fantasy literature and games) a member of an imaginary race of humanlike creatures, characterized as ugly, warlike, and malevolent.
Average ‘anti-racist’ lib.
Edit: a word
You have gone somewhere; you’ve gone through what, 200 alts? I expect this one is about to get added to the pile, you sweet little treat. Just filling every conversation with sunshine. Working on that third aneurysm yet?
Yeah no offense but I don’t see any point to interact with you people using any other terms but insults
38% of registered voters didn’t bother to vote. I think many of them couldn’t stomach either candidate in the fake two-party system and didn’t think a third party or independent could win so they didn’t bother. If that 38% had gotten behind a candidate like Jill Stein or a write in campaign for Bernie Sanders, they could have beaten Trump and Harris.
Jill Stein was a spoiler candidate to help Trump
no she wasn’t
Wake up.
There was a reason she didn’t run in 2020 and that’s because her interference wasn’t needed that year.
that’s the year I voted for Howie Hawkins. you’re just spreading a baseless conspiracy theory
It’s baseless that she didn’t run in 2020?
And if significantly less than that 38% had voted for Harris when Trump told them he would destroy America, they could have beaten Trump.
Ask yourself why Trump wasn’t put in prison for Jan 6th as soon as Biden took office. There are not two separate parties. There is a single party pretending to be two parties. They all work for the same corporations and they all take bribes form AIPAC. That’s why 38% didn’t bother to vote.
Probably because there were only a few guns found, and he sent mixed messages including telling people to be peaceful and later to go home. I’ve even seen threads here where people admit it wasn’t a real insurrection. It was less violent than things that have happened in places like Seattle - and I get that different rules apply at the Capitol - but bottom line it wasn’t a slam dunk as disqualifying him in the public’s opinion.
what are you gonna do about it?
grow up, either grab a rifle and start shooting at political candidates or vote for the lesser evil, you can’t sit in the corner and cry like a 5 year old waiting for the teacher to come and defend you.
This is the real world, nobody is gonna help you but yourself.
Yes, it is unfair, it is fucked and it is bad, but really, what are you gonna do about it?
there are lots of other options
Yeah he’s one of ours? Is that implying that the Ecuadorian president is a member of MS-13? Also they don’t seem to understand that Ecuador in Venezuela are two different countries, although yeah that one doesn’t surprise me at all really
Maybe the Ecuadorian president has killed more people than ms13 and feels like an honorary member?
This is also blatant misinformation. No judge ever made a finding that he was associated with MS-13. The government asserted it in court but it’s never been proven. The immigration proceedings largely revolved around his asylum application, interview, and testimony.
So they’re lying in an attempt to make it sensational enough to bust past due process. For an example of how that looks long term, check Duterte’s regime in the Philippines. Many people were killed extrajudicially and written off as drug dealers.
The allegations that he is a member of MS-13 are completely from an unnamed confidential informer who is their sole source. The gang of cops involved in grabbing him up in the past includes a cop who was fired for misconduct.
The alleged “human trafficking” accusation comes from being pulled over while driving a van full of construction workers to a job site.
The entire case against him is built on lies and unproven allegations that would NEVER stand up in court, and I suspect that is true for nearly all the rest of them, too.
A reminder to MAGA Nazi Traitors that this issue isn’t about the character of this person, its about the abject dismissal of Due Process. If they can do it to this person, based on phoney and exagerrated allegations, then they can do the same thing to American citizens, and they eventually will. This is just practice, as well as wearing people down, so they get tired of hearing about it, and won’t get so personally invested the next time it happens.
Pretty much, yeah. It looks like they’re going on this as “evidence”
The Justice Department shared records, not previously made public, detailing how police officers in Maryland assessed Abrego Garcia was a member of the MS-13 gang during an arrest in 2019. He had no criminal history at the time, which the documents also state, and his attorneys have denied that he is a gang member.
We all know a police officer’s “assessment” doesn’t mean shit, but it seems this is what they’re working from.
Chuckles the clown should be put on blast everyday.
The administration of HilariousChaos aren’t any better as they don’t have any control or want to have any control over the people in their instance.
Is it mostly traitor lunatics or just random stuff including the traitors?
They need to be found and blasted, that way no one has to deal with them anymore
The entire instance is a fucking joke in name only. I was invited to make an account there around when they started by some kid named “Alice.” I noped the fuck out the minute I saw what it was:
A shit-tier wannabe cover-band of 4Chan’s greatest hits.
Nazi instance supporting Nazis, not a shock.
PTB, clear and simple. Someday they will be mass defederated. I don’t think my instance gets them, but I haven’t been looking for more digital self harm by reading Nazis advocating for my kind to be removed.
I don’t think my instance gets them
We do. 👍
PTB, clear and simple.
Agreed wholeheartedly.
Someday they will be mass defederated.
One can dream.
Telling people to “fuck off” is incredibly rude. YDI.
Trump is merely continuing the Biden tradition of seeing 40 beheaded babies and finding Hamas bases under hospitals. But if Trump does it suddenly you believe in the rule of law. It has already been demolished.
How’s bout ya fuck off and eat a slug pissant.
Fuck right off
Telling people to “fuck off” is incredibly rude
Oh hey look it’s the average .world mod attitude! Rudeness < Nazi behaviour, so maybe check your priorities on criticism yeah?
I see the “don’t sass the nazis” attitude so prevalent among reddit mods made it to lemmy. Bummer.
“He’s MS-13!” Prove it in court then. Fuck me I’m tired of Americans being 100% wrong about everything and then trying to sound adult by having lengthy ‘debates’ about it.
Double
PTB.
Like, I get not wanting “political” content in your instance. But guess what, everything has a political side! And the comment is completely related to the topic at hand (Garcia being kicked by force from one dictatorship into another, with no proofs that he would be a mara).
Like, I get not wanting “political” content in your instance.
The post was more political than the comment, just saying.
It’s in a “conservatives” community, so, politics is pretty much the wheelhouse.
And even considering the source, one would think there would at least be some sense of maturity when it comes to moderating, but nope.
It’s wannabe edgelord trolling, even in the moderation/admin team.
That makes it even worse.
Yes it does.
Hilariouschaos seems to pop up a lot here lately
Idk when chuckles became a mod or admin but they’re eleventy times worse than Alice.
It’s certainly chaos but there’s a distinct lack of hilarity.
Alice is okay, just a bit overenthusiastic with niche communities.
Chuckles seems to be a completely different level
There’s a good reason for that.
Hilariouschaos and Lemmy.today tend to be known to be the conservative instances.
Hilariouschaos is one person pretending to be multiple people. Unhinged behavior
How do you know?
Half joking but it’s the vibe I get. EveryoneNot sure how many actual people there are but the admin(s) definitely has multiple accounts and talks to themselves in “themed” communities. Like the Governor Chris Christie account
today is only ‘conservative’ thanks to one very prolific poster. Some of us are sane. Block ‘that’ user (and all the alts, I guess) and the community he posts in.
Hmm, I don’t know if I can do the bang within a hyperlink, so here !conservative@lemmy.today
I got into a discussion with two of the admins there. They basically have every intention to sit on their hands and do nothing at all about that troll, even though proof was brought right to their fucking doorstep.
So it seems .today is going to be his own little personal echo chamber.
That community only has one user.
mrmanager of lemmy.today is just a bartender keeping to himself
They protect Universal Monk and his alt characters even after having been given evidence. They basically chose not to bother looking into it.
I’m about ready to block the instance. Not much of value will be lost.
Nothing at all will be lost. They’ll still show up in the modlogs. That’s where I saw this idiot’s work.
I think I was banned from there for calling out one of Universal Monk’s alt characters. I still see his shit show up in the logs.
Oh yeah, that guy is a real dipshit.
Yeah. And what’s sad is that he seems to revel in it. How fucking pathetic must one’s life be to find joy in being a massive pile of shit?
Some people are so poor that all they have in life is money.
