DISCLAIMER: this is not my content that was removed, I just came across it in the modlog and found it to be absurd. If it’s not allowed, I totally understand.
Reason removed was because it’s unrelated.
Unrelated……
The guy was illegally deported without due process. And yet for some reason, suggesting so is somehow “unrelated” to a meme that is trying to say that because he is affiliated (no charges were ever filed against him for gang-related activity) with a gang, he is by default, guilty.
What’s ironic, is that the entire point of the meme is that the bullshit about him being in MS-13 is unrelated to the fact that people want accountability for this administration illegally deporting a man without due process.
This mod has definitely chosen the correct name.
And even taken into consideration that the instance is essentially a troll haven for wayward 4Chan refugees, they should still have to adhere to the rules of common sense.
If they have all this evidence it should have been really easy to follow due process.
The thing is they don’t have enough for a conviction, if they had they would have used it.
It’s the same reason they couldn’t prove the election was stolen. Because they had no evidence.
I have questions and I don’t know the facts. Was he a non-citizen? Was he sentenced to prison by the US or El Salvador? My understanding is the Constitutional bar for deportation of non-citizens is pretty low, but sentencing someone to prison requires due process. Unless he wasn’t sentenced here, but there.
He was a non-citizen, but had protected status. Specifically, a judge had ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador, which is where Trump et al. deported him to (e.g., in direct violation of a federal judicial order). The deportation proceedings had no due process at all, which is to say, he was never given a hearing after being arrested, never given a chance to speak to an attorney, etc. All of which is illegal.
You forgot to mention that the reason why the judge ruled he shouldn’t be deported to El Salvador is because a rival gang, since he was proven to be MS-13, might harm him if he was.
Yeah, no. There’s exactly zero evidence other than the say-so of Trump et al. that he was a member of MS-13, or any other gang. He was being targeted by gangs, yes, but you can be targeted for gang violence for doing things like, say, speaking out against gangs. Or not giving in to their extortion demands. My nephew was targeted by a gang because he was a witness to a drive-by shooting, and the DA compelled him to testify.
He was proven in immigration court TWICE in 2019 to be MS-13:
https://ijr.com/doj-releases-full-dossier-of-evidence-that-abrego-garcia-was-ms-13/
Just because you haven’t seen the evidence doesn’t mean it’s not there.
What I have heard from the other side (because I believe all news is biased so I consume as many opposing sources as I can) is that the rival gang for which he applied for asylum from, it doesn’t exist anymore. So asylum rejected I guess. I’ve only had eight days off in the last six months so I don’t have time to do real research. But I appreciate whenever I see sources for claims. I don’t believe much outside that.
What I heard is that he fled form the gang and that is why he was granted asylum. I really hate how news media works.
Where would the right place be that one might mention that ?
Right there after that person said it was ruled that he shouldn’t be deported, since that’s where it’s especially relevant given it’s a gang related reason.
A conviction for what? They don’t need to convict him of anything. He was in the country illegally, self admittedly so. He was found to be a MS-13 gang member, in the country illegally, so they deported him to his home country.
Just think about it. Out of the couple-hundred-odd people that Trump deported to El Salvador, why are the Democrats focusing on this one guy? Because the Trump admin themselves admitted that they fucked up and shouldn’t have deported him. Now they’re trying to do damage control.
I’ve seen a lot of people mention this - the reason they say it was “in error” wasn’t a “whoops he wasn’t supposed to be deported” error, there was just an incorrect line in the paperwork:
That’s from a very anti-trump media source btw:
https://apnews.com/article/kilmar-abrego-garcia-deportation-mistake-el-salvador-ed94130580412b81d5ff5c86aea5c0c7
There’s no “damage control”. Immigration courts ruled he should be deported and is an MS-13 member TWICE in 2019. He self admittedly was in the USA illegally.
He is still allowed due process. Otherwise what is stopping power from deporting people on the basis of being an “illegal”, or any other reason they conjure up? Due process is literally the method for gathering objective information about the situation to determine next steps, while allowing for a defense. It is in the constitution. And it is the only way to objectively determine truth rather than “he said she said” nonsense. We’re better than this, c’mon now.
He had his due process.
He was TWICE ordered to be deported, twice ruled to be an MS-13 member, by the courts.
A judge then ordered a stay on his deportation because MS-13s rival gang would likely target him if he was sent home (strange thing to rule if he isn’t an MS-13 member, right?).
The government has invoked the illegal alien act which allows them to deport MS-13 gang members.
He was deported due to TWICE being ruled a MS-13 member by the courts.
That’s due process. What more do you think this illegal immigrant gang member should have been given? He already had his defense in court. He lost. Twice.
Due process applies to even non-citizens. 14th Amendment applies to all people within the borders.
He got his due process.