In some ways it seems manipulative. Sometimes it is indeed a yes or no question, but most people know that certain answers require further explanation. It gives off the impression that you don’t wanna hear someone’s side of the story/debate. Sometimes “yes, but” or “no, but” is warranted.

      • agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works
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        The question was presented as yes or no. It’s your prerogative to want to provide additional information, it is the prerogative of the asker to want a simple answer. It’s inconsistent to champion the desires of the responder while disregarding the desires of the asker. Unless there’s some kind of power imbalance (e.g. employer/employee), every party is entitled to engage with others as they see fit.

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          Darn, well the least you can do is actually explain why it isn’t unpopular instead of just saying it.

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            “I’m sorry you feel that way.”

            literally textbook gaslighting.

            “Please forgive me, please?”

            1. comes across as sarcastic and insincere.

            2. i didn’t say i was offended, i said your opinion is not unpopular.

            “…the least you can do is actually explain why it isn’t unpopular instead…”

            you haven’t asked for information or clarification, what answer do you expect?

            don’t act so entitled. nobody owes you anything.

            if you want to know something, ask.

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              Your first response to my comments was “nah” which gives off the impression that you knew I was trolling. Then you deleted it and changed it to “for what?” I then said: “the least you can do is explain why it’s not unpopular” I don’t see how that’s gaslighting, but then you said “it’s not the least I can do” I was confused by that statement. So I said: “further explain instead of downvoting for no reason which you have literally done to every reply that I made. You’re right no one owes me anything but if you’re gonna say it’s not unpopular, at least explain why.

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                here’s an explanation of textbook gaslighting highlighting your phrase specifically:

                https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/the-mental-health-revolution/202203/i-m-sorry-you-feel-way-and-other-gaslighting-tactics

                if you don’t know you’re being manipulative, you should take a step back and be more careful with your language, you’re very rude and entitled and it doesn’t make me want to help you.

                if you want information, ask.

                “You’re right no one owes me anything.”

                great.

                “but if you’re gonna say it’s not unpopular, at least explain why.”

                you still haven’t asked any questions, so I’ll redirect you to your only self-aware statement:

                “You’re right no one owes me anything.”

                if you want information, ask for it.

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              So… you can do more? Make it make sense instead of just downvoting someone because they call you out for not elaborating on what you say.

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                Ask for clarification or more information politely if you want to know something instead of gaslighting people or being rude and flippant.

                you’re very antagonistic.

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    Depends on the context, but 9/10 times when someone busts it out they’re interrogating someone and trying to paint them as attempting to squirm out of a solid answer.

    You’ll see this a lot in congressional hearings, it’s a great way to look like you’re really pinning the bad guy of the week industrialist to whatever angle you’re pushing.

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    Everybody thinks differently.

    When talking to someone like that, just explain that for you to view it like that, first all the context needs spelled out.

    Like:

    Should you ever burn your house down?

    Treat it like a straight yes/no question and the answer is “no”. 99.99999% that’s the answer.

    But what if there’s like, a really big spider? Or the thing from The Thing and you’re in Antarctica?

    Don’t frame it as an excuse for why someone did something, ask for or provide the context. Be empathetic and think like the person you’re talking to, don’t argue with them treat it as as small independent steps that led or leads to what they’re asking about.

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    The correct time to use this statement is when providing backstory or explanations is not relevant. Some actions can be excused or explained, others cannot. Sometimes people like to overcomplicate things for the sake of justifying something that isn’t or shouldn’t be justifiable. Stating that a questions is a yes or no question is essentially saying “the reasons don’t matter, did this happen or not?”

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    “Yes or no” is male logic.

    Female logic goes like “no or yes or maybe or I don’t know or leave me alone I got a headache…”

    /s