what are some right wing instances?
truth social
that’s like tankies or something
I think it’s important to downvote them and even make them feel unwelcome. You can’t let Nazis and white supremacists in your communities because any community that doesn’t kick out Nazis will eventually find itself overrun by Nazis fleeing communities that kick them out.
You don’t need to argue or make a fuss, but make sure to downvote anyone who doesn’t believe all people are born equal and that people have a right to choose what to do and who to love.
People downvote me all the time and I just think “well they’re wrong, I’ve laid out my argument and they can’t refute it”. So I imagine Nazis feel the same way when you downvote them.
Edit: case in point
Maybe, I dunno… some self reflection to understand WHY people downvote you all the time, might improve something about you?
I just scrolled my post history and picked an example. Like why is this downvoted? It’s literally just an answer to OP on how to do what they want https://lemmy.ml/comment/18043111
Imagine being able to justify yourself by finding commonality with Nazis.
He means that the nazis wont give a samb about the downvotes and that it would be better to be clear to their faces.
That’s what I thought I was doing.
That’s… not what they are saying. They are critiquing the strategy. If nazzis and I agree 1+1 makes 2 that doesn’t mean we’re all Nazzis.
I don’t understand why so many struggle with addressing the message and are so eager to shoot the messenger. It’s weird but really common on Lemmy.
Using one example to make the rule is bad logic.
I don’t even know what your point is.
There is no deep philosophy or logical argumentation going on here.
All we’re telling you is someone pointed out why the strategy doesn’t work to change minds and the only thing you can come up with is “hurr durr nazi”.
You have some growing to do it seems.
We aren’t allowed to critique strategy or work together to better ourselves or our plans with outside views that allow us to see and adjust to match an ever changing world…
That would be so bad for my social media feed. The algorithm would have to completely relearn what I like and that would be a hassle.
there are right wing instances?
The fact that you don’t know about them says the system is working.
I’m not entirely shocked. They get kicked off mainstream sites regularly, they need somewhere for their echo chamber to exist.
Ah, so hilarious chaos IS a right wing instance?
Let’s take a look at HC’s local front page right now:
• First post is pro-Elon, uses “woke” as a derogatory term
• Second post is anti-science transphobia
• Third post is the same story as the first post, says a “hate crime” was committed by the “woke” person, article is on Breitbart [EDIT: fixed a typo I made here]
• Fourth post is ok, fairly normal, but posted by an avid poster for the site named Donald Musk
• Fifth post follows the suit of the fourth post
• Sixth post is transphobia for sports, article is on Breitbart
• Seventh post follows the suit of the fourth and fifth post
• Eighth post is by a news bot, headline says Israel is gonna keep doing what they do
• Ninth post is ok, just a banal joke
• Tenth post paints Tesla as a victim of violence, article is on Breitbart
• Eleventh post is saying most voters prefer moderate Democrats over “radical” AOC & Sanders, article is on Breitbart
• Twelfth post is anti-science transphobia
• Thirteenth post is by a news bot about Canada’s Carney’s plan (I don’t know enough about Canada’s politics to know where this guy stands on things)
• Fourteenth post is by a news bot about Anti-Trump rallies, headline seems politically neutral
• Fifteenth post is anti-science, pro-Trump, COVID conspiracy theories, article is on Breitbart
• Sixteenth post is ok, just a joke
• Seventeenth post is by an admin trying to save face by soliciting mods for a token leftwing community on their site, the only volunteer is one of the above posters of anti-science transphobia
• Eighteenth post is in German about some technology?
• Nineteenth post is by news bot about US attacking Yemen
Thank you for doing the dirty work
Yep, sounds about right. Thank you for your service!
Seems like a bot could do this job efficiently. Kinda like Reddit’s N-word bot
I’ve been completely unable to tell if they’re right wing or just a bunch of edgy 14 year olds, and I’ve been kinda reluctant to block them till I figure out which
Does it matter? If the edgy 14 year olds aren’t contributing anything you consider worth your time then block them anyway.
Oh it definitely doesn’t matter, I’ve been ready to block them since the second post I saw from that instance. It’s just morbid curiosity stringing me along at this point lmao
The first “couple”? I see the porn subs that we defederate because the admin doesn’t want to risk legal liability. There’s the one tanky instance that they defederated before later deciding not to defederate tanky instances. There’s the spam Reddit resharing instance. There’s the two instances mentioned in this LW post, which seems to indicate it’s about illegal content, not political alignment. That just leaves exploding heads, which was right-wing, but gave up hosting at all after everyone defedded them, and hilariouschaos.com. That one, I don’t know, so I’ll take your word that it’s right-wing. But that only leaves one, not a couple.
EH & HC (considered by many to be EH under a new name) are the two I was referring to. Tanky subs were an afterthought on my part.
Im surprised the stupid fucks can still operate a computer/phone let a lone running an instance.
Tech bros are majority magats…
I’ve worked at FAANGs. Most of the people I worked with there didn’t subscribe to western politics. Just my experience.
People are still afraid to publicly (internally?) support Republicans, even though our CEO has endorsed them and we’ve hired some right-wing politicians for various roles
(That or truly very few people are Republican at FAANG)
I couldn’t take it anymore. I’ve had this alt for so many days now. I just got banned from a bunch of heir drumpfkins fluffer conservative communities today. I needed some entertainment to lift my spirits.
I watched a documentary about their ancestors while I commented freely. It’s called Deliverance. You should check it out.
HilariousChaos’s conservative community is a safe space for thin skinned snowflakes you’re not missing much.
Oh I know. I’ve been fucking with them for a while now. On various alts. Just some days you know…
You got a purdy mouth
The fastest block in the west 🤠
How about having to hug a relative with a right wing shirt?
“ha ha funny shirt! But can you imagine people BELIEVE that lie?!? Classic Uncle Morty!”
Wouldn’t happen because I cut those people out of my life.
I’d jump in acid.
I do think anyone on Lemmy is probably smarter than anyone on Reddit. I was browsing a conservative sub today and while they were very few comments, most of them disagreed with the general direction of the Trump administration.
I don’t think user intelligence has as much to to with it as foreign interference and astroturfing campaigns, since its a larger platform
And the bots. Don’t forget the bots.
at least there are some of them here, i havent seen them yet whatsoever
(I even feel like its way more progressive but also more “radical/chaotics” here and there since the communities are still more niche and therefore weighting feels off)
would love to read some “frustration” every now and then to see how my facebook grandparents would argue for example, lol
Because obduration is just a much less useful school than evocation.
I’m a centrist. Am I allowed anywhere in this cruel world?
Edit- What’s the downvotes for?
With the rest of the performers.
“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice”
When I say I’m a centrist that means for some stuff I’m liberal and for other I’m conservative
Centrist isn’t someone who is not into politics. They classify themselves as “non politicals”
You got the difference?
It means your convictions are meaningless & you will become a tool of the Fascists eventually.
Check my other comment in this comment thread and tell me if I’m wrong
Nah.
See that’s what
But people in this comment section already thought I would be a fascist
What conservative positions do you support?
Don’t make up stuff about him.
Use his own shitty opinions to bash him in the comments just below.
Stop hating and check my other comment
I’m from india so I can tell my perspective only for my country
I want
- the affirmative actions to be removed,
- laws to be made gender neutral,
- freebies to be removed (which is given to the uneducated low earning people because they are the votebank),
- to increase the funds in higher education govt institutions,
- DEI should be removed from job hirings,
- and there should be a test for civic sense for the ones who are applying for passport in india
I have bad news for you brown guy, you are a middle ground between conservatives and fascists. Almost all of your takes are aggressive and repressive. People don’t work like that, we are all different and we should account for all diversity. You think “uneducated low earning people” should not get free shit but because they can be bribed. So you understand that desperate people would do anything, so why not help them? Why are they desperate? You remove the freebies but you keep the poverty.
You can step into fascism when you realise that “removing DEI” it’s a lot of bureaucracy and wasted time. Bullets are much cheaper.
I know it’s a mixed side. But I’m definitely not a fascist nor do I support fascism
So you understand that desperate people would do anything, so why not help them?
I don’t know if you don’t understand the situation but in india shit is complex. There have been interviews of people living in slums, they say they are making more children to get a little more money from the govt (from the scheme which was made for educational purposes of lower income households), some of them are regularly caught to be begging instead of doing some work (specially the ones who are fully fit and fine).
You know why it’s like that? Because most of them got the bread and circus and they don’t want anything more.
The govt doesn’t even care about the poor and handicapped people tbh, because they get less seats from the affirmative actions. The so called oppressed groups “STs/SCs” get it.
Recently I gave an exam, the cutoff for general category is 94%ile but for ST it is 49%ile. Just look at the difference
That’s why affirmative actions should be income based only for the ones who are in the BPL (below poverty line) list
I have some very superficial knowledge of Indian system casts etc… but regardless, people are people, fundamentally they act the same.
most of them got the bread and circus and they don’t want anything more.
Let’s start from here: they don’t want anything else. Are you sure? Would you believe in a system where you are confined in your cast (or for any other countries, general poverty), where you need to slave just to survive? If you live in a slum, yes your first issue is bread, second issue is bread tomorrow. You are not drinking grass smoothies dreaming a lambo. Why? Because you know, you see it everyday, that no matter what you do the probability are against you.
So why anyone living in a slum would even try to game the system? “Nobody expects me to make it… why not make as many kids as possible and get the money, at least my first son will survive. “
We need to stop thinking about people in terms of good vs. evil. We are surviving machines, we do what profit us and make us last long, good or bad doesn’t matter. Governments should account for that and give everyone the same OPPORTUNITIES and bridge differences with empathy and understanding.
Talk to homeless people, listen to their stories. You will realise it’s an unlucky, unsupported, discarded version of you.
As I understand you, you’re in favor of abolishing quotas for SC/ST persons, for example. In view of the large and rising income inequality and wealth inequality across the Indian population (stats), would you be open to an ambitious ‘caste-blind’ social security system, financed by taxing the rich? Or to income-based educational support programs?
For some context, I am from India too, and even rabid right wingers in my family (mostly men, for obvious reasons) don’t have a problem with reservations. The only people who tend to have a problem with those are upper caste people, who are about 30% of the population. This is a truly elitist position. I have faced casteism even in one of the most urban, educated and wealthy cities in India where I lived for a while (Bangalore) and I am not even a Dalit (the ‘untouchables’, i.e., SC/ST people). This is a hilariously out of touch position in real life, it’s more common on the internet because of the dominance of UCs and their generational privilege.
What’s caste blind social security system?
There should income based affirmative actions, for the ones who comes in BPL (below poverty line) list and for the specially abled people
If more than half a century of affirmative actions wasn’t able to give jobs to certain communities, then it’s a skill issue not a society issue
Casteism doesn’t exists except in some villages, left extremists would say otherwise
What’s caste blind social security system?
I am thinking of a social security system (or welfare system, or redistribution scheme, or tax scheme) which does not take caste into consideration, but only factors such as income, wealth, parental income and wealth, illnesses and disabilities, …
In Europe and other Western countries, discontent about immigrants (and their descendants) is on the rise because people who struggle give them the blame for their own hardships, and a lot of politicians gain power by appealing to these sentiments, yet the policies that they then enact just make the rich richer and the poor even poorer.
Could something analogous be going on in India (with the lower castes in the place of immigrants), in that the ultra-rich people manage to avoid paying taxes commensurate to their wealth by making public policy debate focus on DEI or affirmative action programs?
“I only oppress people when they deseve it.”
Well I don’t deserve 6 downvotes 💢
Balancing on the knife’s edge is always a dangerous act.
Share your thoughts, be cordial, question politely, answer in kind.
I always answer politely unless the other person fcs around
Still you’ll targetted everywhere id you’re a centrist. Just look at the down votes😂
You can’t please greek and trojans and politics are always a dividing subject but, in my opinion, nobody has the reason by themselves. Usually, everyone has a good idea that everyone should support.
