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    Caption: Judy said her family hasn’t got the MMR vaccine because they ‘don’t like the things in it’

    I will cut off my left testicle and eat it for breakfast if Judy can name one ingredient in the MMR vaccine.

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    ‘She was my little girl,’ he says softly. ‘And they let her down.’

    Killing your kid by negligence and then playing the victim. Disgusting.

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    Article title is incorrect:

    Parents of daughter who they murdered through negligence meet with some dumb cunt to blame everyone but themselves. And they’ll do it again.

    There, fixed.

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    they claimed…that Big Pharma used vaccines to make money, at the expense of people’s health.

    I see this all the time with vaccine sceptics and I mean, yeah… Can’t we unite on the fact that vaccines should be public and not some private investment

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      funny thing is pharma would never make vaccines if it not for subsidies by the govt, its just not profitable to them.

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      I’m still pissed how the COVID vaccine (and practically every medication) was researched a d developed with public funds, but the patent is owned by private companies.

      The public paid for it, it should belong to the people.

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        There’s just more and more of this lately. We give money to the govt, they fork it over to some company, they use money to make a product I have to pay for, again.

        Sorry that’s just fucking dumb. Don’t bail companies out or give huge grants, make them compete for contracts and have the people own a portion to reduce cost to the US consumer. It’s socialism, sure. But at least we’d come out ahead instead of getting hosed again.

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      it is crazy how close they are to understanding the toxicity of capitalism, but they stop at the last moment to scapegoat someone else.

      it’s not the Billionaires who are dangerous, it’s the one Jewish billionaire

      it’s not there banks who are toxic, it’s the Jewish bankers

      it’s not capitalism that prioritises profits over health, it’s just the vaccine

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      It’s the best way to get vaccines though.

      I can imagine a government controlled bureaucracy trying to invent new stuff 😰

      Edit: people have no idea how modern medication is made.

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        What, like NASA or university grants? Government-backed research happens all the time in loads of fields.

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        If the government is so bad and untrustworthy, why not instead of just accepting that they’re bad and trying to not let them do stuff… we change the government to make it more trustworthy.

        I don’t know your political leanings but the Republicans in congress almost all universally thin that government sucks and is bad, and they do everything in their power to make that assumption a reality

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        I can imagine a government controlled bureaucracy trying to invent new stuff 😰

        No need to imagine, it’s like the main way we do research in the US. Or at least it used to be…

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          Yup, that golden age when we came back from the depression was because of socialist policies FDR put in place and the rich immediately began to vilify (note these rich clowns caused the depression).

          Socialism isn’t a boogyman, it’s the reason anything is working at all.

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    Imagine thinking the very person who is fine with letting your kid die because he is too invested in his own lies and conspiracies that he somehow truly believes is working for you.

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    On the one hand I feel like no parent should have to lose there child. That’d a terrible loss that hits really really deep.

    On the other hand WTF. Your kid dies because you didn’t vaccinate them and you meet with RFK Jr.? Your kid died because you were mislead. Honestly with all the crazy misinformation I can’t necessarily blame them but you would think the loss of your own child would be a pretty big wake up call.

    ‘She did not die of the measles,’ he said of his daughter, Daisy. ‘If there’s one thing you should know, it’s that. She was failed.’

    After his visit, RFK Jr wrote on X: ‘The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine.’

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      Well they certainly can’t blame themselves now, imagine how much pain it would cause them to realize the truth.

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      psychologically, it’s easier to double down that to accept you murdered your own child due to stupidity

      and socially it’s easier to double down than to accept you were intentionally misled by your community and those in power to kill your child.

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      its the same thing like the wife of the firefighter wanted attention from trump only when her husband was shot dead, and ignored biden condolences.

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    “Mennonites” while the husband is dressed like a completely modern dude probably works a normal job and does whatever the fuck he wants while his slave wife stays home and raises the kids

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      dressed like a completely modern dude

      Complete with the douchebag sunglasses sitting on the brim of the hat.

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      Not old order Mennonite then. They don’t even use zippers because they are not mentioned in the bibel. They must be in a ‘pick and choose’ branch.

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    Mennonites skewed anti vax before it was trendy, like a long time ago. Old religious vaccine exemptions were basically for them, IIRC.

    Like, I remember hearing about these folks when I was in school in Texas.

    What I’m getting at is that they’re not quite the same as MAGA-zone vaccine skepticism. There’s some overlap, but they’re more old school and broad than that, with a more general technology-hesitant slant, while MAGA skepticism seems more driven by social media and influencers.

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      By and large, Mennonites do skew pretty crazy and conservative in a lot of ways, but I think it’s worth pointing out that there can be a tremendous amount of variation from one church/community to another, there’s not much in the way of a larger overarching organization, a lot of policies, beliefs, interpretations and such are sorted out at the local level.

      Some Mennonite churches are practically indistinguishable from the Amish, but there are some around that are very liberal. I live in an area with a pretty large Mennonite population, and the churches kind of run the entire gamut from horse and buggies to some of the most modern and liberal churches I’ve ever heard of.

      They do, like I said, tend to skew more towards the conservative end of things, but there is a lot of variation there.

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        Yeah, it skips the religious purism (and the sometimes very real attempt at pondering deep morality), and goes straight to modern attention hacking mixed with timeless demagoguery and conspiratorial urges.

        That’s what I’m getting at. I empathize more with old school religious communities acting this way… to some extent. Some transcripts in the article are not very flattering.

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      i heard about them through a yotubers channels who had a guest with mennoites connecitons. she said they were different brand of crazy from the amish groups.

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      Like, I remember hearing about these folks when I was in school in Texas.

      You realize that none of have any context for that, right? You could have been in school in Texas 3 years ago. Or it could have been in 1965. We don’t have any clue.

      That being said, I fully agree with your overall post. I’m just nitpicking.

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          So did you graduate from college last year? PhD, or reskilling? Following a passion?

          (Still not enough info to know when it was! Haha)

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            The youngest Millennials graduated school in about 2014 or 2015 at the latest. There’s no way, in context, they’re talking about a PhD, and very, very little chance they’re even talking about undergrad university.

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              Hm…I’m seeing that millennials are between 29 and 44. Even 29 is old enough to earn a PhD.

              Either way, the older ones are definitely old enough to be talking about post-secondary.

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                It wasn’t obvious because of the age, it was obvious because people don’t say “back when I was in school” to refer to a doctorate. And when the context is specifically trying to emphasise how young they were at the time, they don’t tend to mean “when I was an undergrad”, either.

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                  They didn’t say “back”, but yeah, I get what you mean.

                  Like, I remember hearing about these folks when I was in school in Texas.

                  They heard about them. This could’ve been because when they lived in Texas, Texans told them about the group. Or because they studied trends in anti-vax movements when they went to school in Texas.

                  I think the original point was that the reader has to make assumptions about what they meant, and my point was that even clarifying the age doesn’t change that we’re still making an assumption about when they were in Texas.

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    I mean to these people see children as kind of like a numbers game so give it a year or two and they’ll just keep popping out more children and rolling around the floor, talking in tongues praising Jesus.

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    Imagine you kill a kid and you actually get the parents to show up for a photo-op so you can show the world they don’t blame you and they just go along with all the lies you have been telling and everything goes fine really.