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    Couldn’t he only be pardoned for the federal level conviction and not the state? Looking at his Wikipedia article, he has a 21 year fed sentence and a 22.5 state.

    But yeah, this is a way to force violent protests and eventually martial law.

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      IIRC, Chauvin made the plea deal on federal charges so that he would do his time in the relative safety of a federal prison.

      Which would mean that if he gets pardoned on federal charges, then he would have to serve out his remaining state time in a state pen… the very thing he wanted to avoid. He would probably be dead in under a month unless he spent the next decade or more in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day (like he did in his pre-trial detention).

      Which would be a crying shame, of course…

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      Maybe it won’t be protests this time and just 30,000 people turning his body into something that doesn’t resemble a human.

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    Elon knows millions of Americans hate him and are coming for him so he wants every single super-villain free to team up together.

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    They’re trying to Reichstag fire up their own Reichstag fire. Martial law in America as a toe dip for their invasion of Canada.

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    I find it funny how people on the right want the cop who shot that lady during the Jan 6 riot to be punished, yet think Chauvin was in the right…like how can you be so stupid…then again they probably don’t care the cop shot her they care cuz he’s black.

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      One cop shot a minority. One cop shot a Republican. To them one one of the victims is considered human. Take a guess as to which.

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        I kind of wish Chauvin shot Floyd instead of the TORTURE he put that man through. Slowly choking the life out of him as he begged for his life.

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          Does it matter though? The people with the most firearms are the most indoctrinated. And besides that, Americans have always talked about needing the right to bear arms to dispose of a tyrannical government, but it seems like people aren’t even putting in the effort to vote or protest, let alone taking out the fascists. So what exactly is the point of all the guns? Besides the purpose of supplying all the criminals in both Mexico and Canada with illegal weapons

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          A bunch of civilian rifles stand no chance against drones 30k feet in the air dropping guided missiles or the ai controlled murder dog robots they’ve been showcasing the past couple years.

          Plus, what is the disgruntled American town going to do when an abrams rolls down Main Street? They’re just as prepared as afghani villagers when that situation comes to pass.

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          for all the guns americans have, theyre clearly too cowardly to use them for anything outside of school shootings

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        Be careful with your reasoning, my friend. Just because they want it doesn’t mean they would survive it.

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        Not saying you’re wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?

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          Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.

          Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.

          It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.

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              Mhm. It’s understandably counterintuitive, and indeed a problem for “regular” politicians.

              You’d think it would make Trump lose support, and to some extent it does, but I guess you also have to understand how warped the US information environment is. Anyone who cares about George Floyd and actually sees this in their news feed would not support Trump anyway, whereas that’s not the case for nearly any past president. Supporters who see the riots would write them off as not Trumps fault.

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          Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.

          That’s why he’s firing everyone at the top of the military who isn’t a white male.

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          trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).

          as to why… well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.

          just my 0.02

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          Authoritarians equate fear with respect. Aggressively putting down a riot makes people scared = people respect them. It is the same reason Putin jails critics inhumanely or Kim kills families of defectors in NK. If people lose their fear of them these despots are powerless.

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    They just want to cause riots. Trump and Elon are agitators.

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      This. I’m convinced at this point they’re attempting to instigate riots so they can declare material law and seize full control over the US government.

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        I know it a typo, but declaring it, would be the last step of making material law the ultimate authority. Taking Capitalist Fromm late stage to endgame.

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      I agree. This is just intended to cause civil unrest to distract from everything else they’re doing to tear America apart.

      But also, Musk is a Nazi.

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        They are the clowns of the circus. Half the US is trying to figure out who the ring master of the circus is … instead of looking for the guy who owns it.

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    I think the ultimate goal is martial law, and I think he is unconcerned about what triggers his ability to declare it.

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    If Trump pardons him he still has 20+years of state sentence to finish, this is a distraction….

    They are about to do the biggest grift ever with the tax cuts for the rich.

    All of this is a distraction

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      Yup, same with the tariffs. Drop the stock market by two percent and as the richest person in the world you’ve just invested billions

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    A possible motive is to push the power of the executive. If Trump can somehow seize this power, there’s nothing that can stop him.

    That or just trying to embolden the police, but I’m guessing it’s even worse than that.

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      I’d say it’s to embolden police and violent racists, in hope of helping encouraging their race war to destabilize the country so that they can divy it up.

      The interesting lack of forethought from the oligarchic billionaires is that their billions mean nothing without the US dollar and NYSE. The majority of their hoards of wealth are not backed by anything tangible that could be of use in the event that the US dollar ceases to be relevant. I suppose that this kind of thought isn’t likely to occur to sociopaths that were born with platinum spoons in their mouths.

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        Yes - just as with the DEI controversy, the main point is just to fan the flames of racism.

        The 1% understand that the US is approaching a breaking point. Things are going to shit, and people are going to start looking for someone to blame for the ugliness and horror and death to come.

        And the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the 1%.

        And of course, they don’t want us to see that. So they’re doing everything they can to divide us against ourselves.

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      A gun. A gun can stop him. They work well. American has more guns than people, and a second amendment designed to stop this nonsense when needed.

      It’s needed.

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    This is the sleight of hand they want you paying attention to. Instead, keep an eye on the other hand;

    Because that is the one doing the damage.

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      The real trick is the fact that both of these do damage, and you can’t afford to ignore either.

      Signaling to the police that the executive branch has your back and will support you when you kill poor black men is going to get people straight up murdered.

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        He also has people’s back when they murder/injure police. So, if you’re a cop, do not take it as a show of support.

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      true, but also, there’s a point that laws don’t really exist anymore. it’s just gang shit. the cops are the gang that want to kill you rather than make a profit off you. there is no legitimacy, there is no reason to respect or obey them, and in fact they will kill you if you do.

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      Elon trying to use this to distract from all the federal firings he’s done