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    Couldn’t he only be pardoned for the federal level conviction and not the state? Looking at his Wikipedia article, he has a 21 year fed sentence and a 22.5 state.

    But yeah, this is a way to force violent protests and eventually martial law.

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      IIRC, Chauvin made the plea deal on federal charges so that he would do his time in the relative safety of a federal prison.

      Which would mean that if he gets pardoned on federal charges, then he would have to serve out his remaining state time in a state pen… the very thing he wanted to avoid. He would probably be dead in under a month unless he spent the next decade or more in solitary confinement for 23 hours a day (like he did in his pre-trial detention).

      Which would be a crying shame, of course…

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      Maybe it won’t be protests this time and just 30,000 people turning his body into something that doesn’t resemble a human.

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    Elon knows millions of Americans hate him and are coming for him so he wants every single super-villain free to team up together.

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    They’re trying to Reichstag fire up their own Reichstag fire. Martial law in America as a toe dip for their invasion of Canada.

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    Presidential pardons are one of the dumbest powers. Change my mind.

    (Plenty of more stable countries get on fine without it, and don’t have to deal with this nonsense to boot)

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      People lose their shit over jury nullification, yet somehow pardons are A-OK

      Pardons should not be a thing, in my lifetime its pretty much only been used for scummy shit.

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    I find it funny how people on the right want the cop who shot that lady during the Jan 6 riot to be punished, yet think Chauvin was in the right…like how can you be so stupid…then again they probably don’t care the cop shot her they care cuz he’s black.

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      One cop shot a minority. One cop shot a Republican. To them one one of the victims is considered human. Take a guess as to which.

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        I kind of wish Chauvin shot Floyd instead of the TORTURE he put that man through. Slowly choking the life out of him as he begged for his life.

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    I can nazi why not.

    I’m sorry, folks. I’m trying a variation on the old adage. I’m terribly sorry.

    Not for that cop, though, he deserves to rot.

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    Can someone kick off from ketamine? Cos I really hope he just does a little too much one night

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      Yes, but it’s generally folks who IM it who do.

      Matthew Perry is probably the most famous example. But growing up in the party scene, it does happen fairly often.

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        Yeah I wasn’t sure cos I know plenty of people who do it and are always all right for the most part. The effects never appealed to me so I just never partook but it seems like you really have to fuck up bad to be in serious trouble on it

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          Yeah, the IM users are bypassing first pass metabolism. And cranking up their tolerance to unsustainable levels.

          Which makes it a lot more dangerous than for folks who snort or inhale it. So, we don’t hear about many overdoses. Especially if someone is using a mist inhaler from a Dr.

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      Not really. And I wouldn’t pin this behavior on something that has therapeutic use anyway, ketamine deserves better.

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    Chauvin would join Kash Himmler’s near future SA or NKVD private security detail. The single finger salute goes out to the neo-Nazis and their Government of Putin supporters.

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          Does it matter though? The people with the most firearms are the most indoctrinated. And besides that, Americans have always talked about needing the right to bear arms to dispose of a tyrannical government, but it seems like people aren’t even putting in the effort to vote or protest, let alone taking out the fascists. So what exactly is the point of all the guns? Besides the purpose of supplying all the criminals in both Mexico and Canada with illegal weapons

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          A bunch of civilian rifles stand no chance against drones 30k feet in the air dropping guided missiles or the ai controlled murder dog robots they’ve been showcasing the past couple years.

          Plus, what is the disgruntled American town going to do when an abrams rolls down Main Street? They’re just as prepared as afghani villagers when that situation comes to pass.

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          for all the guns americans have, theyre clearly too cowardly to use them for anything outside of school shootings

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        Be careful with your reasoning, my friend. Just because they want it doesn’t mean they would survive it.

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        Not saying you’re wrong just want to understand youre thinking why would they want riots? Isnt that the only real threat to them?

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          Triggering division as an excuse for suppression is Dictator 101.

          Your political opponents are lawless? That means you can legally crack down on them.

          It has the side benefit of stirring the shit/divisions which is what keeps Trump in place.

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              Mhm. It’s understandably counterintuitive, and indeed a problem for “regular” politicians.

              You’d think it would make Trump lose support, and to some extent it does, but I guess you also have to understand how warped the US information environment is. Anyone who cares about George Floyd and actually sees this in their news feed would not support Trump anyway, whereas that’s not the case for nearly any past president. Supporters who see the riots would write them off as not Trumps fault.

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          Enact martial law, take over all legislation, be a dictator. Job done.

          That’s why he’s firing everyone at the top of the military who isn’t a white male.

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          trump has been looking to apply the insurrection act since his first term. with the various sycophants in congress and the executive, there has never been a more opportune time (other than tomorrow, of course).

          as to why… well, trump has gotten even more messianic since his first term. suppression of dissent would be a powerplay that may yield significant dividends, showing loyalists the need to stay in the camp and detractors what happens when you resist.

          just my 0.02

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          Authoritarians equate fear with respect. Aggressively putting down a riot makes people scared = people respect them. It is the same reason Putin jails critics inhumanely or Kim kills families of defectors in NK. If people lose their fear of them these despots are powerless.

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    They just want to cause riots. Trump and Elon are agitators.

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      This. I’m convinced at this point they’re attempting to instigate riots so they can declare material law and seize full control over the US government.

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        I know it a typo, but declaring it, would be the last step of making material law the ultimate authority. Taking Capitalist Fromm late stage to endgame.

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      I agree. This is just intended to cause civil unrest to distract from everything else they’re doing to tear America apart.

      But also, Musk is a Nazi.

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        They are the clowns of the circus. Half the US is trying to figure out who the ring master of the circus is … instead of looking for the guy who owns it.