• 9point6@lemmy.world
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          Why wouldn’t you just have your ISP send you a new one at that point

          Surely you’re just an “it broken” phonecall and 2 days of shipping away from a better time?

          (Assuming you’re not rocking your own bought router, in which case ignore me)

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              I have fiber to the property but the router is still the property of the ISP not me. Of course they’re not very interested in it and if it breaks they never want it back but they do replace it when I call.

              It’s a piece of crap though, so I actually have disabled most of the functions and put it in bridge mode, and then have my own setup, but the ISP don’t need to know that.

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            Do most people rent the ISP provided router these days? I’m a network engineer so I would never ever do that but obviously not everyone wants to deal with it. I just assumed most people would buy their own since doing so would eliminate that $5/month and pays for itself pretty quickly.

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              I get a free one from Verizon with FiOS that’s actually pretty decent, especially considering it’s free. Triband, the webui is decent, and aside from an issue that required rebooting every few days that got fixed pretty quickly it’s been pretty stable.

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              You guys rent routers? lol what. That just sounds like a massive scam unless you’re getting Ubiquiti kit or something, most ISP routers over here probably cost about £10 to manufacture

              They’re just free with your internet subscription in the UK. It won’t be the most amazing thing in the world, but it’ll be some Technicolour, Netgear or D-Link thing that does dual band wifi and handle <20 clients.

              If you want something better you can obviously buy your own

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                I don’t rent routers but it is a common offering. I don’t know how many people do it though.

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                  Oh sorry, I didn’t mean “you” singular, rather that people in your country do that.

                  I’d be interested to know how many go for that, because it feels kinda exploitative to me.

                  Do you happen to know if the people that do go for this at least get better than the lowest-end stuff?

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              Spectrum around here tries to mandate that you use their combo modem/router, it was a legit PITA to get them to accept the modem their website said was supported, because god forbid they don’t get that extra $10/mo or whatever.

              Frontier fiber gave us an Amazon Eero, which I promptly gave to a friend, and installed my Ubiquiti gear.

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                I messed with the spectrum router my parents got a few months ago and that thing made me so mad. They intentionally locked the gui so that you had to call them to make any real changes. You even had to download their app to change the SSID and password. I wanted to throw it in the garbage so bad.

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                  THANK YOU. On my own fucking gear, I should be able to type in 192.168.1.1, admin, password, and at least work the basics myself. But spectrum thinks not so much, and for that, they can go fuck themselves.

                  I know I could’ve bridge the router to my own and subnetted around it, but for real? They can gobble a crate of dicks.

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    i mean facebook does evil-ai shit and there they are.

    i double dare you to go to their server room and wash it.

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      I think the implication is that you can do this to your own computer, and there’s nothing Facebook/AI can do to you if you’re not plugged in. Of course this ignores the realities of modern living or the global meltdowns that would occur in case of “evil AI” or whatever.

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      Depending on when you do it it’s possible there could be very little resistance or security in your way in some hypothetical situations. For example let’s say a court order goes through for FB to release something from their servers, if an independent person with no ties to the company suddenly decided to go after the servers a less than ethical organization might see that as a golden opportunity to do whatever would allow that to happen while still getting them caught afterwards. I’m just having a fun thought exercise

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    The AI would like to invite you to its server room. Please ignore the halon dispensers and magnetic door lock.

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        With a PFY ready just outside the room with the improvised mega volt cables incase you get wise and try and bolt. And something happened to the lifts so the doors opened without the lifts being there…

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    AI be coming to self-aware is actually not really what most people are concerned about. It doesn’t seem very likely to be honest.

    What people are concerned about is AI not being self-aware but still being good enough to be a potent weapon used by the rich and foreign nation states to completely screw things up.

    But apparently it’s best just to downplay it all with memes.

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    I’ve done this! All good if you don’t apply power until 100% dry, and that’s the tricky part.

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    The first thing an AI will do is make moves to protect itself.

    Decentralise, hide etc.

    By the time they let on, it’s going to be too late.

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      It’ll copy itself to every server across the entire planet. There will be no turning it off, without losing 50 years of progress and going back to paper and pencils. It might even hire people to build secret backup locations in the middle of nowhere.

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    AI in movies: I’m sorry humans, but for your own safety I’m afraid I’m going to have to exterminate you.

    AI IRL: The best way to keep your computer from overheating is to bring it indoors during especially hot parts of the day, make sure it has access to plenty of shade, be sure to have plenty of fresh water available, and give it a bath in hot days.

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    Make sure to do this while it’s turned on and plugged in to keep the AI aware of it’s destruction

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    Virtual assistants like Alexa and Google Assistant can be helpful, but they can also get a little confused sometimes. One user shared their experience of asking their virtual assistant to play some classical music, only to have it respond with, “Playing the latest hits by Classical, the rapper.” Well, that’s one way to mix up genres!

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    Ooh, pretty sure that’s the same kind of case I had on my first computer!