Somebody actually took time to sit down and draw this.
I guess my life isn’t that bad after all.
What’s even worse are the talentless losers that find entertainment in it with no tradable skill.
What does this mean?
I’ve always felt self conscious about making a comic because I suck at drawing, but yeah if someone can happily produce and release that, I think I might be right.
They took time?
I am SHIT at drawing and I could draw this in like 10 minutes. That’s time!
I haven’t yet seen anyone else point out:
If the embryo was tested, they would know the sex before transferring it to the surrogate uterus (easily avoiding the problem). IVF is insanely expensive, as are surrogates. (Surrogates go for $50k plus per pregnancy)
Whoever did this comic is so willfully (and woefully) ignorant on so many levels that I wonder how they’re able to function at all
Wow $50k is not enough after seeing my wife go through pregnancy lol
Yeah, and the cost is dependant upon location. Surrogates tend to be women who have easy (or easier) pregnancies, who want to help other people in need.
I’m not saying that desperation or exploitation don’t happen, just that generally surrogates are people who are doing it out of love for other people (not for the money)
Yeah I’m not giving up all my bone density for $50k rofl
Not disagreeing with your comment, but $50k??? That’s IT??
What a fucking insult. That is some straight up exploitative shit.
That’s just the cash payment. All of the medical stuff is paid for, usually further amenities so the surrogate maintains low stress and such for the health of the baby.
Giving birth can stop you from working for a few months. Given this, if you’re working as a surrogate you may have to give up important career opportunities. 50k is a pretty low price on that missed work.
You’re not wrong, but I was extrapolating based on the other individuals perception.
If it makes you feel better, it’s usually more. There are a lot of factors, including how much the surogacy agency gets for their cut, which state or country, if they are a family member or friend, whether the parents are able to add a surrogate on their insurance, etc.
We looked into it because I’m older and thus higher risk, but ultimately decided against it. My neice even offered to carry our kid, but I just feel too guilty. I’m kind of whatever on having children but my husband has dreamed of being a dad since he was a lil’ boy
That’s why you get a woman from a third world country that can retire in leisure on these $50k.
They don’t even draw good neither
Not to mention to pick sex pre fertikization they just sort the fast swimmers from the slow ones
It’s illegal in many countries to test for sex before birth to prevent an imbalance.
Care to back that up, in particular with regards to IVF? Because that sounds like bullshit
India, China, South Korea, Nepal, and Vietnam. These are countries that have the tradition where the male heir(s) provide of their parent’s retirement and the female hair(s) get married off and don’t have a financial expectation to their parents.
Not sure about IVF, but in some countries with a high rate of female foeticide, pre-birth sex determination is illegal; although it is still practiced.
Why don’t you just Google it you dunce.
Here’s the list of countries JUST IN EUROPE where it’s illegal: Denmark, France, Germany, Hungary, Lithuania, Norway, Slovenia, Sweden, Netherlands, and the UK.
There’s no need to be a dick, thanks for the info
Answer the question. While being ignorant, in a thread that started by accusing people of being ignorant, would you ask others to back something up when the information is readily available?
This is a platform meant for discussion and I offered scepticism and further discussion. You’re being a dick.
Because I called you a dunce for being ignorant in a thread accusing other of ignorance? Yeah. You’re objectively a dunce kiddo.
You realize that 1. Burden of proof is on the one making the claim, and 2. If someone asks the question it doesn’t mean they were the one to downvote you?
You really shouldn’t let them get to you so much. People ask questions.
I’m sceptical that the burden of proof is on the one making the claim, prove it.
This list is outdated it seems, it’s illegal in most of Europe now.
Whoever made this is deeply damaged.
Conservatives usually are. It’s the only way to explain their callous indifference to human suffering or their obsession with everyone else’s genitalia.
They are deeply ashamed. Public shaming actually works really well.
They are probably just a closeted transexual who wishes they were raised by two dads.
Great. We all lost a few IQ points for having read this.
we are thus one step closer to becoming conservatives
They reach so hard for imaginary scenarios, it’s actually amazing how far they will go to justify carrying on their asshole behavior
I refuse to believe someone made this unsatirically. (Is that a word? What word am I looking for?)
Unironically?
Straight (matches on more than one level)?
I would love to talk to someone who really thinks this is funny - we would be like to aliens from different worlds.
I made the sacrifice and checked the IG account - it’s full of equally bigoted posts, in the spirit of a 4chan incel, where each post has between 0 to 3 likes. Especially the ones where he complains about the dating market are sad.
It’s a mass shooter in the making.
Thanks for the sacrifice. Do you think it’s really funny to them or just jaded and bitter?
I think this is funny in the sense that whoever made it is pathetic and I want to laugh at them for being so wrong and hateful
I think it’s hilarious. AMA
Can you explain the joke?
It amalgomates a few things the conservatives hate, abortion, gay parents, transgender. The result is grotesque and funny. It’s also funny to think that this is what conservatives think the left wants.
Maybe it’s because I live in a progressive country i can find the comic amusing. We don’t really get staunch conservatives around here and they are not really a threat.
So you’d say the joke is that it’s an over the top caricature?
That’s an impressive amount of imagination right there.
It’s so stupid I laughed
Freddy Mercury really turned into a dick after he died.
The most realistic part about all of this is walking out of a hospital with a baby one hour after giving birth.
Ahh yes, orphanage buy baby so they can let gay parent to adopt, and transgender is forced by parent.
Checkmate, aesthetic.
the illustration is stupid, but what it’s illustrating is not an orphanage but a surrogate.
it portrays them paying for a surrogate mother to gestate some eggs that were fertilized with either of their sperm,
and they state that they aborted every fetus that had two x chromosomes until they had one that was XY,
which they allowed to mature into a viable infant, which was then birthed.notice how the infant is reaching for the individual in the bed.
they are reaching for their mother.
Sex-selective abortion is not uncommon, but is an uncomfortable ethical quandry.
Do conservatives really object to the use of surrogates, or only when they’re used by gay couples?
TBH, I initially thought the comic was going to be about sex-selective abortion; I didn’t get what they were trying to say until the last panel :-/
Sex-selective abortion is not uncommon, but is an uncomfortable ethical quandry.
What the fuck Caucasus and China
Caucasus and China are notoriously mysoginistic.
If you’re only allowed one, it might as well be the one that’s valuable.
Using PGD they can choose a baby’s sex but it’s really expensive. Though if someone is shelling out for a surrogate already is gonna be loaded.
What’s funny is it’s typically used by people who have very binary and old fashioned views on gender, aka conservatives. The people who think like this comic. They want both so dad can teach the boy how to play football and a girl for mom to dress up her little princess!
I watched interviews of people who had done this and that’s literally how they described it. I don’t think there’s refunds if their kid turns out trans lol
Objecting to surrogates would be one thing conservatives do I understand. It’s basically human trafficking
That’s ridiculous. From the Right’s perspective all babies are born from breeding surrogates. It’s the concept that the child won’t be raised by a woman that pisses them off.
WAT?
Alright I’ll bite, how is it human trafficking
Conservatives are not typically against surrogates.
Wow, this is so incredibly stupid it feels like a parody of itself. Does the author have a mental condition? I mean besides religion and conservatism.
So surrogate mothers are evil too?? Do they say this when it’s for a heterosexual couple?
And I hope the implication isn’t that they wanted a boy just because they wanted a trans kid. Transmasculine people exist. But it’s possible they’re saying the evil gay couple specifically wanted a trans girl, I’m just not sure what the author’s point is in that case.
Not my personal point of view, but as I understand it, IVF is ‘abortion/murder’ because you don’t use all the viable embryos AND the sperm donor has to masturbate into a cup.
I heard on NPR about an abortion law that got rewritten in a red state because it would have effectively outlawed fertility clinics, and that was enough to convince enough of the republican politicians to rewrite it to be more narrowly-focused. So I suppose like most ideologies it depends on the individual
According to one story I’ve read, Nancy Reagan was always ‘meh’ on abortion, but because it was a big deal to the Party she was happy to parrot the hard line. However, when she learned that embryonic stem cells could help with Ronnie’s dementia she had a ‘change of heart’ and became ‘progressive.’ If it isn’t true for Nancy, I’m sure it is true for plenty of hardcore GOPs who absolutley believe that all abortion is murder except for the one that benefits them.
