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      Usually I’d call someone like that a hypocrite, but considering he took two bullets… I understand why he wouldn’t want a repeat of that experience.

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        Weirdly “it’s gods will” doesn’t apply in this case.

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          I mean it does, god wanted him to get shot twice and survive and then build a bulletproof popemobile to not get shot a third time.

          God’s will is a pretty ironclad argument as long as you don’t really believe in free will, or at least believe that God is powerful enough to know how every decision will be made in spite of free will.

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        ahem The deity he follows says that he should turn the other cheek and not only allow it to happen again, but to happily and freely provide the opportunity. You can still call him hypocritical.

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          To be fair, that was advice for nonviolent resistance against the state, in a context where slapping someone’s other cheek presented social difficulties to the oppressor. In order to slap someone’s other cheek you had to use your unclean left hand, disgracing yourself by vulgar behaviour, or use a forehand slap with your right hand, which implicitly acknowledges the victim as your social equal. Turning the other cheek is a great way to fuck with the Romans.

          The New Testament is full of practical advice for anarchist Jews to use against the state.

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    I’d say the undignified part is sitting atop a family car in a custom made box that simultaneously looks like he’s being exhibited to an alien species and he’s about to get gunged by Dave Benson Phillips.

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    On June 6, 2007, a German man tried to jump into Benedict XVI’s uncovered popemobile as the pontiff began his general audience. The pope was not hurt and did not even appear to notice that the man had jumped over the protective barrier in the square and had grabbed onto the white Fiat popemobile as it passed. At least eight security officers were trailing the vehicle as it moved slowly through the square. They subsequently grabbed the man and wrestled him to the ground, before he was interrogated by Vatican police.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popemobile

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      Bullet proof glass, security goons. Why all this when prayer would keep him safe? Perhaps the pope only pretends to believe prayer works? Christopher Hitchens said he met with top clergy several times and they openly discussed with him they knew it was all bullshit. When asked why they chose to preach known bullshit they said its what the parishioners expected and they felt it was mostly “good” bullshit.

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        Do you remember any source for Hitchens on that, like a book or speaking event? I’d enjoy hearing more about that specifically.

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          Sorry, Ive listened to so many hours of hitchens interviews I couldnt tell ya. Ive specifically heard it twice in two interviews/lectures. Usually its intertwined with him discussing the church inviting him to, and him acting something like an antagonist in debates within the clergy. Which is usually intertwined with criticism of mother theresa. Sorry I cant be more helpful. Good excuse to listen to lots o’Hitch however.

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        “Well, it’s all bullshit, but as long as I’m in power, you have nothing to worry about” -every religious leader ever

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        Why all this when prayer would keep him safe?

        You’re thinking of American Baptists and Evangelicals. Catholics are a little bit more practical, in general. Like protecting pedos, instead of ejecting them. Very practical.

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    Gay slurs are perfectly dignified, though. It’s definitely the car that cost him respect. (I know, different pope. Still, though.)

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      I know, different pope. Still, though.

      Still what? You’re judging one person on the statements of a completely different person. How is that logical?

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        Sorry, I don’t do “logical” when it comes to flippant remarks directed at pedophile apologists. Nothing about the Catholic church is “logical.” Am I lashing out in anger? Yes. Is that anger misplaced? Frankly no, I don’t think so.

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      i wanna know how the natively spanish-speaking pope learned the word “frociaggini”. like does anyone that’s not gay say that???

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    It was comparable to a PT Cruiser with an aquarium botched on. One could confuse it as part of a mobile dog wash fleet.

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    If I was driving around in a Fiat Homer, I wouldn’t worry too much about what people call it. Especially not if I was also wearing such a ridiculous hat…

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    I thought it was open on the sides because I guess one of the popes wanted real interaction or something. *Oh wait is the glass only halfway? Needs more jpeg.

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    “There’s the pope sitting in the trailer bed of that pick up”

    Is this the dignified option he wants? It’s certainly accurate.