Due to overwhelming support for unilateral defederation from feddit.uk, we will be doing so tomorrow at 8:30pm Moscow time. Please see the previous thread for context.
We wanted to give everyone a heads-up since after we defederate, numerous account actions and deletions will NOT update on the defederated instance due to coding limitations in lemmy. This includes:
-Post edits and deletions
-Account edits (bio, profile picture, display name)
-Account deletions
In the future this will likely be fixed, but due to the dev work required it’s not feasible to change in the short term. If you have any account or post changes you want to make, please do so before 4/27 8:30pm Moscow Time, or when this post is 24hrs old.
Thanks to everyone who provided their feedback. We will continue to fight transphobia and reactionary rhetoric on this instance for the safety of our users 
Seen some vile transphobia in that instance, just from a short look. Horrible fucking place.
kneecap go on hexbear
As someone (unfortunately) from Biscuit Island, I approve.
Same, and same.
Good. No more of that instance and their “ccp” whining.
I somehow missed this but fuck that shithole. I got out of terf island luckily but many trans friends suffering there. We don’t need their bs here
LIZZY’S IN A BOX IN A BOX
Thatchers still dead.
I asked to defederate as well in my small instance, but I think our admin is sleeping or partying because he had not answered yet. Waiting until Monday for him to answer before I’m going to make a fuss on the irc channel.
Using Moscow time is still such a good bit
I didn’t vote either way but this was the right decision and I approve
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transphobia isn’t an opinion it’s a “please face the wall”
I was referring to the hexbear opinions not the transphobia
purge your shit-arse admins and we’ll refederate. you don’t even need to blow up parliament.
so… I actually agree that defederation may not be necessary here if your instance got its shit together and started modding transphobia as they say they will, and that the evidence was poorly presented and evaluated. At least one of your admins seems really on top of recognizing and calling out transphobia, but is not currently empowered to delete it in the politics comms.
BUT, not because the user in question wasn’t being transphobic or was just discussing the law , as you’ve asserted further down the chain here. they literally insisted that woman = cis woman and “transwoman” is something different, with no reference to the law. this is literally just a slightly more roundabout way of saying trans women arent real women, an obviously transphobic statement. Combined with the context of defending a ruling and a position by your PM in favor of banning trans women from womens spaces and other discriminatory measures, and the on the ground hate crimes it will inspire, thats actually a despicable position to take and defedding over that is not extreme for a vast-majority-queer instance.
And we aren’t shutting off from ‘the entire country’, just one instance with moderation issues. just as I wouldnt be caught dead on lemmy.muri.ca, plenty of uk users aren’t restricting themselves to the instance with a fuckin union jack on it, and those are the ones I’m interested in talking to anyhow
It’s not isolationism to have standards, and we’re actually significantly larger and more active than .uk on our own lol. The only varying opinion I’ve ever seen from your instance is liberalism or worse, which can’t be said for many of our other federated instances, who occasionally serve up different views that aren’t just what I can see on tv news.
Unfortunately when the varying opinion is whether or not our trans users should be harassed, there’s no room for open mindedness. We just can’t take the risk with instances who’s admins are lax on protections we enjoy here. If you find things that are posted here interesting, I’d suggest making an account.
Many people have recently.
Varying opinions doesn’t extend to hate speech
suck me
Although obviously you’d disagree with that statement
Don’t disagree.
We don’t mind opposing information insofar as it isn’t spammy gotchas or reactionary attacks on marginalized groups.
Removing “vuvuzela no iphone” and “communism bad tianmen winny the pooh” comments prevents this place from being the same annoying fight fest that every other liberal social media platform is.
Good faith discussion isn’t a bad thing, but removing tired low-effort garbage is necessary to have a space where we can focus on our own discussions without derailing into having the same debates over and over. Most of those types of comments aren’t good faith anyway and those users just want to stick it to us rather than explore ideas.
Hopefully someday we can reunite with you if feddit.uk changes or you make an account on another lemmy server.
I wasn’t referring to that sort of stuff, I meant with this defederation. A bit extreme in my opinion.
You think it’s extreme to protect trans people here from those who completely dehumanize us?
Sure when you phrase it like that it sounds black and white, but i don’t think the comment in question was “completely dehumanising”. They were saying that, in law, “woman” refers to cis women. Which is what our supreme court decided recently. Horrible decision, and I disagree with it, but it’s something to fight against. Not completely shut off from the entire country and hide in your bubble. Because if you do that your bubble will get smaller and smaller.
He literally called trans women “it”.
transphobia
I can call it a woman who used to have a penis or a woman who used to be a man if you want me to be pedantic about it.
There’s absolutely no excuse for letting such a fucked-up comment stay up. It’s such an obvious instaban.
Because if you do that your bubble will get smaller and smaller.
For some of us, this bubble is the only place their identity isn’t under constant attack.
Bigots and liberal ideas exist everywhere. We won’t miss anything by excluding them.
Creating a total commie bubble within a liberal society would take so much fucking effort that suggesting that blocking safe havens for bigotry prevents us from seeing important ideas is actually hilarious.
They’re not even complaining about us not seeing important ideas, they’re complaining that they won’t get the privilege of feeling like they’re getting a balanced diet by occasionally entertaining a little communism as a treat. It’s self centred af
Feddit has no obligation to submit to a supreme court ruling. The Feddit admins simply have no intention of preventing transphobia on their instance. Either they agree with it, or they’re too weak to stop it.
On Hexbear we have a fantastic melange of people who would be banned on sight in other instances purely because of their country of origin. I value that global scale bubble.
Sounds like the supreme court ruling is just the thin veil needed to justify doing what they wanted to do anyway.
Fair enough
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Going to fight the injust rulings of one country’s supreme court by conceding to their points on my international website for no reason other than it’s easier to side with bigots than it is to fight them
Not completely shut off from the entire country and hide in your bubble.
nah. cutting shitheads off at the knees is how you fight. you don’t give dumb motherfuckers an inch, an iota, a single minute of belief their opinion is worthy of air. you don’t discuss.
and dogg? look at me. <snaps fingers> look at me. you’re not listening. listen when i talk.
Hexbear is straight up bigger, better, richer.
feddit.uk is a nothingburger instance. feel me? from where im sittin, nothing of value was lost.
you can go now
Defederation is the choice that prevents the mod team from having to do a lot more moderating.
Sure, it is the most “extreme” option out of what a federated server can do, but anyone who really wants to participate in conversations with Hexbear can join any other Lemmy server that federates with us. Anyone who really wants to see or interact with our content will be able to.
So really it is us deciding the reach of federating with that server is worth less that the expected moderation effort. Not very extreme IMO.
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I think it’s extreme that you don’t mind transphobia.
I mind it
You completely downplayed it in your other reply.
If you did you’d make your feelings clearer in your original comment and delete your feddit.ukkk account.
Do you realllly tho?
Hexbear.net defederates with feddit .y uk
Is this extreme?
Happy now?
extremely cool and good
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It’s not about a single comment or a single user (especially since there were multiple), but about the behaviour of the entire admin team, who after 3 days are still debating whether or not to do anything about it.
It’s so fucking selfish of you to expect trans people to put up with transphobes coming in here and treating us like shit, when all you have to do is just make another account here.
make a hexbear acct, we don’t tolerate bigotry and we got the best gotdang emojis you’ll ever see
More like feddit.PooKay
Feddit.ukkk
For convenience, that’s 1:30 a.m. April 28th in Beijing.
and 1:30 p.m. April 27th in Langley
Thanks Langley comrades for covering the night shift for us
Another one down. I’ll get my isolationist hexbear back one day
before we defederate, can someone please tell them to suck me?
Hexbears should note there is a Fediverse memes comm on their instance:
what does this have to do with them sucking me
Well you have to tell them somewhere, right?
