Due to overwhelming support for unilateral defederation from feddit.uk, we will be doing so tomorrow at 8:30pm Moscow time. Please see the previous thread for context.

We wanted to give everyone a heads-up since after we defederate, numerous account actions and deletions will NOT update on the defederated instance due to coding limitations in lemmy. This includes:

-Post edits and deletions

-Account edits (bio, profile picture, display name)

-Account deletions

In the future this will likely be fixed, but due to the dev work required it’s not feasible to change in the short term. If you have any account or post changes you want to make, please do so before 4/27 8:30pm Moscow Time, or when this post is 24hrs old.

Thanks to everyone who provided their feedback. We will continue to fight transphobia and reactionary rhetoric on this instance for the safety of our users red-fist

  • LargeAdultRedBook [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Although obviously you’d disagree with that statement

    Don’t disagree.

    We don’t mind opposing information insofar as it isn’t spammy gotchas or reactionary attacks on marginalized groups.

    Removing “vuvuzela no iphone” and “communism bad tianmen winny the pooh” comments prevents this place from being the same annoying fight fest that every other liberal social media platform is.

    Good faith discussion isn’t a bad thing, but removing tired low-effort garbage is necessary to have a space where we can focus on our own discussions without derailing into having the same debates over and over. Most of those types of comments aren’t good faith anyway and those users just want to stick it to us rather than explore ideas.

    Hopefully someday we can reunite with you if feddit.uk changes or you make an account on another lemmy server.

    • GiveOver@feddit.uk
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      I wasn’t referring to that sort of stuff, I meant with this defederation. A bit extreme in my opinion.

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          Sure when you phrase it like that it sounds black and white, but i don’t think the comment in question was “completely dehumanising”. They were saying that, in law, “woman” refers to cis women. Which is what our supreme court decided recently. Horrible decision, and I disagree with it, but it’s something to fight against. Not completely shut off from the entire country and hide in your bubble. Because if you do that your bubble will get smaller and smaller.

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            He literally called trans women “it”.

            transphobia

            I can call it a woman who used to have a penis or a woman who used to be a man if you want me to be pedantic about it.

            There’s absolutely no excuse for letting such a fucked-up comment stay up. It’s such an obvious instaban.

          • LargeAdultRedBook [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            Because if you do that your bubble will get smaller and smaller.

            For some of us, this bubble is the only place their identity isn’t under constant attack.

            Bigots and liberal ideas exist everywhere. We won’t miss anything by excluding them.

            Creating a total commie bubble within a liberal society would take so much fucking effort that suggesting that blocking safe havens for bigotry prevents us from seeing important ideas is actually hilarious.

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              They’re not even complaining about us not seeing important ideas, they’re complaining that they won’t get the privilege of feeling like they’re getting a balanced diet by occasionally entertaining a little communism as a treat. It’s self centred af

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            Feddit has no obligation to submit to a supreme court ruling. The Feddit admins simply have no intention of preventing transphobia on their instance. Either they agree with it, or they’re too weak to stop it.

            On Hexbear we have a fantastic melange of people who would be banned on sight in other instances purely because of their country of origin. I value that global scale bubble.

          • Crucible [he/him, comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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            Going to fight the injust rulings of one country’s supreme court by conceding to their points on my international website for no reason other than it’s easier to side with bigots than it is to fight them

          • mendiCAN [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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            Not completely shut off from the entire country and hide in your bubble.

            nah. cutting shitheads off at the knees is how you fight. you don’t give dumb motherfuckers an inch, an iota, a single minute of belief their opinion is worthy of air. you don’t discuss.

            and dogg? look at me. <snaps fingers> look at me. you’re not listening. listen when i talk.

            Hexbear is straight up bigger, better, richer.

            feddit.uk is a nothingburger instance. feel me? from where im sittin, nothing of value was lost.

            you can go now

      • LargeAdultRedBook [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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        Defederation is the choice that prevents the mod team from having to do a lot more moderating.

        Sure, it is the most “extreme” option out of what a federated server can do, but anyone who really wants to participate in conversations with Hexbear can join any other Lemmy server that federates with us. Anyone who really wants to see or interact with our content will be able to.

        So really it is us deciding the reach of federating with that server is worth less that the expected moderation effort. Not very extreme IMO.