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      Yes! EVs still have a smaller ordinary car battery in them. It charges from the main battery in the same way in a ICE car it will charge from the alternator. If the main battery is dead, or just for some reason not charging the small battery, it can effectively act exactly as if an ICE car has a dead battery.

      Fun fact, you can also use that fact to use existing car battery to mains power gadgets in the case of a home power outage without the more complex dedicated reverse-charging that only some cars (and chargers) support, but without running an ICE in/outside your house for hours.

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      electrical vehicles often have two battery systems - a 12v, 24 or 48v battery for the accessory systems like your windshield wipers and radio, ECU, door locks, windows etc - and the high voltage power system that runs the motors.

      why not run it all on the high voltage system? tbh, I think we’ll get there eventually, but atm it’s easier to isolate them from each other so you never get 400v going to the driver window or other accessories. For the last 100ish years all these systems - motors for windows, wipers, seat adjustment etc all ran on 12v. Auto manufacturers redesigning everything from the power perspective didn’t make a lot of sense when it’s all available off the shelf if you can feed it 12v. And considering the vagaries of charging the high voltage systems, having a separate 12v means even if the fancy shit goes tits up, you should still be able to unlock the door or turn on the hazard lights.

      IIRC Hyundai even has a crossover circuit that you can engage to allow you to jump the low voltage system off the high voltage pack, but I have no firsthand experience with this.

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      I’ve jumped a Tesla (Model S I think) a few times. It’s actually pretty easy. Just pop the grill off with a credit card and there’s jump points there. Once I jumped it, the main charging system would be available for use. Plugging in the main charger then keeps the 12v battery charged and you’re good to drive again. This I believe is a well engineered system and Tesla made it easily accessible.

      The dumb part is that until you do that, there’s no way to access the vehicle. No backup key. So if the car dies completely, there’s no way to access the cabin, trunk, or hood.

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      Yeuuup. Gotta be able to turn the car ‘off’, and if the car is off (disconnected contact loop to engage the big battery) it cant receive the signal to turn on. (Connect the contactor to engage big battery)

      So something has to always be on.

      Which makes the big ‘fuel’ battery into a fancy alternator to keep the 12v/48v stuff on and running lol.

      If you disconnect the tiny (in comparison) 48v battery from the main battery it wont charge and the car dies even if the big battery is fully charged.

      Long story short, teslas fail to modern car problems but with the added bonus of failing to other dumb tesla-specific problems.

      Seeing a heavy duty diesel tow truck haul a cybertruck is about as on-the-nose as you can get for the reason it sucks.

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        Same thing happens with the Nissan Leaf, it has a 12v battery and it needs to be in good shape to start the car.

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          Frustratingly my phev ford did the same thing when I left it parked for a week, even with the evse attached

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              Lol when I get out of my car I park in the garage and plug it in. It stays plugged in till I need to drive again. No charging schedules since they shut down the 3G networks because reasons

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      The battery that does the driving is completely different from the battery that does the rest of the stuff in the car. So whilst it sounds funny, it’s actually correct.

      This is not a unique Tesla thing BTW, I think all electric cars work like that. The battery that does the driving has very different requirements, so keeping them separated is the best solution.

      What is pretty shit from Tesla is the regular battery dying all the time. That’s a pretty unique Tesla issue.

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        The original telsa roadster used the main battery for everything, but it was proven a bad idea because any faults in the battery would leave the car completely dead with no lights or anything. Having a second reliable battery is simply good saftey redundancy.

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      Yeah, my Leaf has a battery, and if the leads get corroded I can’t start nor charge my battery. It sounds weird, but afiak most electric cars are setup this way.

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    “Couldn’t activate transport mode”

    You mean turn it on? It’s a fucking car whatever modes does it have?

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      Disengaging the parking brake, most likely.

      My Toyota Rav4 has the same problem, the brakes cannot be released if the battery is completely dead and it can’t be jump started. The tow guy had to just drag the damn thing into the truck.

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        Ha, apparently! I just can’t get enough of these posts, what an absolute dumpster fire of a vehicle, company, and their customers.

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          And the owner, don’t forget that Mr Desperate To Be Loved is also a flailing tire fire…

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        Pretty much.

        AFAIK all Teslas need a flatbed for towing due to the wheels being locked. The “transport mode”, I was told is only made for loading onto a truck.

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          Pretty much all EVs since the motors are directly connected to wheels and there’s no clutch system to disengage.

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    Was this the girl with 6 teslas that has been seen posting about her experiences camping with them? Or is that another generic blonde with too much money?

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      Yeah, you’re gonna have to be more specific…that doesn’t actually narrow it down much

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      Nah, this is not true. BYD and Skoda ate build like shit, but they are allowed on german roads. This vehicle isn’t. Conclusion: it is build worse then shit

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        Sadly, people have found ways to make them road legal in Germany. (entirety of schengen too)

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            Looks like one was registered in the Czech Republic, but EU regulators are saying the details on the registration don’t line up with reality. (3.5 tons on registration when it actually weighs 4) And that even the rubber bumpers added to the sharp bits, it still runs foul of the prohibitions on sharp edges.

            As far as I can tell they can be imported for off-road use, they’re just not street-legal.

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            Yeah, I’ve seen some from Serbia that are just bribed plates that have gotten impounded in Germany and UK.

            Sadly in Norway there’s an exception for any US or Canadian legal vehicle that has been registered for at least 6 months in US/Canada that makes it so it can be brought to Norway and registered fully legal, with no modifications.

            You then abuse the fact that Schengen regulations say that anything road legal in a Schengen country is road legal in any other Schengen country, and boom you can register a 6month old Cybertruck in any Schengen country.

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              Damit. But at least they must be still roadsafe to german standards. If on the road. But then, the cops must prove that they are unsafe for each individual one. Much paperwork, and german cops hate paperwork

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                At least there’s a significant barrier of entry with the cost, you’re not gonna get it road legal under 150k EUR.

                So hey, we get some taxes out of it.