• JokeDeity@lemm.ee
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    If I owned a business I wouldn’t bother with standard interviews and resumes. They’re such a waste of time and really teach you nothing good about the person, except how good they are at lying to you on the spot.

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        Since it’s all a moot anyhow being that I’ll likely never own a business, I’ll say that I’d try to spend the day with them doing non work related stuff to get a feel for who they really were, then if I thought they felt like a good fit on that front, I would ask them for hands on demonstrations of the skills they will actually be using to perform their job…and not every job under the roof, their job that they were hired for.

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          Sounds like a load of hassle. Imagine having to spend a day with 100 different companies in the hopes of getting hired.

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            I mean, presumably this isn’t a popular idea, given that no one does it, so I don’t think if I did it it would necessarily catch on. This is a very loose hypothetical though and I’m sure full of flaws.

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    The first one will add “Thought leader of the dark enlightement” the moment she gets a backlash for her AI art.

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    Meanwhile I rarely tell about my skills to anyone. I would rather make them find out and be intrigued.

    Also as you could tell I am unemployed.

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    I’m managing director of a crane maintenance company responsible for the continuous uptime of freight logistics at an international port with multiple clients across the Northern half of Australia.

    I.e people ring me and infix their shit.

    No employees and work out of a ute. But it sure sounds better when I word it the first way

    Not to mention when I’m out and about i don’t let on that i own the company. People ask what it’s like to work for them and I say good haha

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    It’s always some random Indian guy, “CEO and founder” of at least three “companies” that when you dig into them are basically hobbies, posting inane utterings like “I woke at 4am today and called my employee. He was still in bed so I fired him!”

    They’ve probably never even had an employee.

    I dunno what the fuck is going on in India. It’s like they’re running a cargo cult version of capitalism, hoping that typing mean nonsense like that will somehow make them rich further down the line.

    As a Brit, it was probably our fault in the not too distant past.

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      India is especially notorious for their turbo-capitalism, but quite a few post-colonial countries have similar features in their society. The rich elite owns and controls the country, the working class struggles and the poor ones suffer. Government doesnt care to actually provide services for its citizens or better their lifes.

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      A friend who is Indian told me that they reckon it’s linked to colonialism — now that I’m reflecting on it, I’m inclined to call it “post-colonialism” (a separate thing from neocolonialism, which exists alongside it). My friend described it as an especially toxic form of hustle culture. There’s a lot of pressure to be the best — not the best that you can be, but the best. It leads to a lot of burnout.

      Indian culture also values seniority/age quite highly, which means that compared to places like the US, it can be less socially acceptable to disagree with your boss. Apparently this has led to India having a lot more assholish middle manager type bosses. I can imagine in that world that being the CEO of something that’s not real is basically just a fantasy of being out from the thumb of asshole managers. Plus if you feel very pressured to always be working and being Productive, then making your hobbies seem like businesses may serve to legitimise a hobby that you feel guilty to even have.

      I think it’s less of a “cargo cult” capitalism, because that term implies people going through the motions with no understanding of the underlying mechanisms. I think that the Indian CEO types you describe probably understand capitalism pretty damn well, because it sort of feels like a 'roided up version of capitalism, so to speak. It makes sense when I consider the population density of India, and the hustle culture competitiveness. It’s probably useful to consider that profiles like this aren’t necessarily aimed at us, and and are likely just operating under different social conventions. There’s a lot of objectively silly stuff that I have to do as part of playing by societal expectations, so perhaps this is just something like that. It sounds like a rough experience though; Burnout due to the pressures of capitalism is definitely a worldwide phenomenon, but it sounds like Indian workers are having an especially rough time with it.

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      Eh, maybe it was our fault a while back but these places have been independent long enough for their problems to be their own fault now. They only blame us as a distraction, pretty much like the pre-Brexit British govt used to blame the EU.

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      As a Brit, it was probably our fault in the not too distant past.

      Yep. You deserve that honor for almost every frigging nation in the Commonweath, lol.

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    And at the other extreme, the guy with a 10 year old photo who never logs in, listed as “software engineer”.
    Who has enough experience and knowledge to rebuild a social network.

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      Well the thing is that, similarly to dating apps, people who are actually successful in their career don’t have to use LinkedIn to get around.

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        LinkedIn is a hotbed of recruiters, so any time I feel the urge to go jobs fishing I whisper “Interested in a new position” into my phone an instantly get spammed with a dozen different people posting positions.

        It’s not the worst place to go job hunting, just because everyone shilling for HR departments is already there. It’s just full of silly bullshit, too. Like walking through the skeezy end of a carnival every time you want to go ride the Ferris Wheel.

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          Yup, I add “open to work” or whatever it’s called (haven’t logged in for a few years), update some things, and then get spammed by recruiters. That’s how I got my current job, and it’s how I’ll probably get my next, because actually applying for stuff doesn’t actually result in interviews.

          I have the benefit of experience though. I’ve been around the block a bit, so I stand out.

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    Honestly now: does anybody actually like that style of emojis/avatars? They create a strong negative reaction in me but I am not sure why.

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      They perfectly illustrate the Corporate Mindset. I like to imagine they were designed by a conclave of neurotypical and painfully unfunny and uncreative MBAs who got together in a coworking space and brainstormed the most consensual and least offensive avatar tech they could fathom. Likely none of them ever had a passing thought about what makes for compelling character design. Certainly none of them can stomach the idea of emergent phenomenon in communication. And above all nothing must stick out; to them the idea that users would want to make a non-human, cyborg, furry, green-skinned, or whatever avatar is abhorrent. Jane’s quirky facial expression is the full extent of allowable creativity (and even then you know they had a 30 minute debate about including it).

      These avatars do a better job of inspiring dread in me than half the shit in Severance.

      Tangentially, it reminds me of when we went from Geocities/MySpace/custom reddit CSS/custom youtube pages to “you can change your PP and banner”. … okay? Was a unified design language really worth crushing all visual creativity?
      … and now I think it’s a shame that Lemmy and Mastodon’s default clients don’t support (AFAIK) custom CSS for communities/user pages. I think that would be very iconic for the Free Web. Is someone working on this? I feel like someone should be working on this.

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          I’m really glad that I discovered the phrase Corporate Memphis, because it works really well as an out of context pejorative. E.g.

          “Ugh, that’s so Corporate Memphis”

          That could refer to something that isn’t at all like the corporate Memphis art style in a literal sense, but has all of the vibes.

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          Sure, but community moderators can’t. Spinning up my own instance shouldn’t be a requirement to use custom CSS.

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        This seems significantly harder to achieve here. I believe Lemmy doesn’t have a unified frontend across instances, or does it?

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          Lemmy does come with a standard web interface that you could apply custom css to. If that custom css then federates, other instances could show it on their end.

          Might clutter the Lemmy API with stuff that less than half of users actually wants to use though. Maybe it’s better to make a separate system of fediverse user styles with a browser plugin. Then someone on Mastodon could also see it without having to extend the entire ActivityPub standard.

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            If it’s a browser plugin it won’t receive widespread adoption. I don’t know what the actual numbers are but I’m willing to bet well over 95 % of desktop lemmy users are using the default frontend despite the many alternatives.

            Old Reddit+RES did it right IMO: custom CSS but an easy-to-use toggle on a per-community basis, plus (IIRC) a global toggle in case one doesn’t want custom CSS at all.

            Custom CSS wouldn’t even necessarily have to federate, though it would be better if it did (but there are probably security concerns to address). It’s CSS, it’s supposed to gracefully degrade; if CSS federation isn’t supported, it doesn’t break the user experience. That doesn’t have to change anything in ActivityPub either, you can just add a custom field for the styling and let clients figure out what to do with it.

            Kind of the whole spirit is to give users a tool and no worry so much about the rough edges. Custom CSS doesn’t have to work perfectly, it just has to work for most users.

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        They’re made to be inoffensive and generic, in a way that shelters companies from being sued.

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      Never thought about them, I guess it is weird that someone would take time out of their day to use the built in tool to create an avatar for work like in teams or outlook

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    We had to fill out a “personal biography” at work a couple years ago. Under “Thing I’m Most Proud of” I put “Time Magazine Person of the Year, 2006”.

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      People who were born in 2007 will be adults now. As we age, it will become a more rare achievement to have been “Time Magazine Person of the Year, 2006”. What a weird thought.

      That’s a fun thing to put in your bio though. It’s edgy enough to be clear that you were exasperated to have to fill out a bio, but not so much that it makes you seem like an asshole. Very wry

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        Oh, no reason. But I was called into my manager’s office because I hadn’t turned it in early. I told everyone around me that they were looking to cut employees by figuring out who could handle more jobs.

        Under “Hobbies” I put “Privateering”. Under “Fluent Languages” I put “None”.

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          Haha, nice job helping your fellows cut thru the crap and protect themselves.

          Unrelated but i remember being called into my managers office for not completing an “anonymous” survey (one of those where all the questions are how much your love your job) and when i asked “how do you know that?” She didn’t have an answer. Eventually i filled it out larping as a bootlicker.

          Corporate surveys are nakedly searching for exploitation avenues… Luckily corporate is also dumb as shit

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            What is the point in surveys when we can’t trust them enough to fill them in honestly? It is just a complete waste of time, then again that would describe most things HR send my way.

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    I mean, this is just normal resume building tactics taken to an extreme. The first thing I was taught when I was building my first resume was to focus on the most skillful tasks I handled while at work, rather than the most frequent. It doesn’t matter that I only helped train a newbie once for a couple hours, my resume said that I trained and oversaw new hires. It doesn’t matter that 99% of my job was sticking tags on clothes - few people care about that skill, so I didn’t mention it on my resume at all.

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    Hey, I faked it until I made it. My first software contract was for something I’d never even attempted before and I nailed it

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    It’s an arms race, it’s all silly and I mostly have made the choice of not participating, even if it’s definitely making my career harder, but if you are trying to participate, what else are you gonna do when everyone else is doing it I guess?

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      It feels so fucking icky. I feel everything related to finding work and presenting oneself to find work fucking degrading.

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      Be honest about your skills, then when you get a job (might take longer) its so easy you can spend like 90% of your day looking at memes and management still praise your output. Sure the pay isn’t the best as I am not pushing higher, but work life balance is great. I had 3 lunch breaks yesterday. Still earn more than enough to live comfortably.

      I have been here for almost half a decade. While I can keep this up I am never leaving.