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    Gen Z grew up on social media. The same that spreads the propaganda, the fake information and the toxic masculinity bullshit.

    They also grew up with an impossible social economic context where they barely have any hope. Trump’s making promises to make the country great again. What have they got to lose?

    Why is anyone surprised?

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      They also grew up in a time where the education budget was slashed over and over, even some states like Florida getting rid of history and sciences during trumps last presidency. No surprise there.

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      What have they got to lose?

      Gay marriage, contraception, porn, legal divorce? Just off the top of my head.

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        Their POV is that the earth is going to burn to a crisp before they’re out of paying back their college debt whether the tie is blue or red.

        Play an online game and hang with some teenagers every now and again and just listen in. I hear some straight depressing shit. They have zero hope for anything.

        Kamala might keep the lights on. Trump might accidentally trip over a good idea. Worth a shot if you’re fucked either way, right?

        They were wrong, granted… but justified? Sure.

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        Porn isn’t going anywhere. LoL

        Divorce either.

        Gay marriage? It’s already dangerous to just come out, let alone get married.

        And contraception? They’ren already losing that one too in many states thanks to local governments anyway.

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          Gay marriage?

          The real solution here is to abolish marriage as a state sponsored privilege. It’s a religious ceremony that should have no place in government. It’s pretty gross how there’s so much pressure and so many benefits (eg. tax breaks) from participating in this ceremony. If people want to perform this ritual, it should be like a baptism without any state involvement. Nobody cares about gay baptism, but marriage is a hot button issue because it confers so much privilege. As a non-religious person, it’s super oppressive.

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          Porn isn’t going anywhere. LoL

          Give Project 2025 a read. Wild things in there.

          Gay marriage? It’s already dangerous to just come out, let alone get married.

          Thanks to who?

          And contraception? They’ren already losing that one too in many states thanks to local governments anyway.

          Literally a direct cause of the last Trump administration.

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          “divorce either”

          Just like abortion, right? You realize it hasn’t been that long that you had to prove one party was at fault in order to be allowed to divorce? You hate each other? Denied!

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            Yup, I remember the parents of boomers bitching about “no fault divorce”. Had to finally ask someone wtf they were going on about. This was maybe the 70s or 80s?

            Turns out this shit gets passed down, now I hear Gen Z bitching about it as well as a few of the crazy influencer types coming out and saying the quiet parts out loud now. Nearly all my life, I didn’t even really hear that many boomers complain about it, and I cannot recall hearing my gen (Gen X) say anything at all about it, if they even knew what it was, except for the occasional really crazy xtian taliban type that went unfiltered and told us normies what they thought about “the state of marriage today”.

            What a fucked up world that we now have to worry about this kind of thing again? These people are just fucking crazy. It’s one thing that they have such fucked up ideas about (their) elites trafficking kids in the basement of a basementless pizza parlor, but they cannot even leave anyone else the fuck alone.

            They have their stupid book club, and we allow them to have it, because freedom of religion. But they insist that everyone else has to join them because they think freedom FROM religion is not an American ideal that needs to be followed…I hate them so very much. And I was raised xtian…

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            You have to get married to get divorced, and marriage is simply not on the table for most people. It’s expensive and pointless. Marriage rates have been dropping for a couple of decades. It’s just not important since we completely removed the original purpose… Expanding the economic success of both families.

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              So you don’t mind if the rights of a minority are infringed upon? You realize it’s a way to control women? Marriage doesn’t need to be expensive either and a man wanting to put a ball and chain on a woman will force her to get married and she’ll be legally stuck with him for the rest of his life if no fault divorce is made illegal again. What about the 62 million married couples that already exist?

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          https://www.npr.org/2024/07/07/nx-s1-5026948/conservatives-in-red-states-turn-their-attention-to-ending-no-fault-divorce-laws

          https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna161562

          There’s a massive difference between the social stigma attached to coming out, and the revocation of the legal rights associated with marriage.
          It’s not even that long ago that people couldn’t visit their life partner in the hospital following an accident, because they weren’t married.

          Limited access to certain types of contraception in certain areas is a very different beast than overturning the case that ruled that contraception isn’t criminally indecent.

          If you don’t know how far civil rights have come even in the past 20 years, or how much further back than that they openly want to push things back, I don’t think you’re paying attention.
          Abortion had just as much legal protection as porn or gay marriage, and it “wasn’t going anywhere” until it was suddenly gone.

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            Oh I am paying attention. I know that’s at stake. I was born in the early 80’s so I’ve seen the progress. And I’ve seen the conservatives chipping away at it for the past 20 years. Both in the US and Canada. (I’m Canadian)

            I’ve been stuck with the massive democratic power of the boomer masses my whole adult life and saw them vote in these conservative and neo liberal parties that have completely destroyed whatever social safety net that they benefited from and any freedom and equality only for them to have more money to put in their retirement funds.

            I was hoping the Gen Zs would join our ranks, but social media, corporate lies, toxic ideologies meant to address their insecurities, and now AI have fucked up their perspective.

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          Man it’s like you’ve never even met any of the dumb crackheads that are cucking for these evangelicals

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      They also grew up during the pandemic so they might actually be less educated than Boomers.

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      As a Gen-X I will never blame the later generations. Especially Gen Z and younger, if I was in their shoes I’d be livid. You bring me into this mess and then tell me it’s on me to fix it? F U

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        As a Gen-Xer, we got the benefit of the boomers taking almost all the air out of the room, and their parents thinking our generation was even worse than the boomers. The boomers mostly ignored us, called us slackers, etc…some time goes by and we are getting lumped in with the boomers and the “greatest generation” and getting blamed for all the problems, so that’s been fun.