• shadysus@lemmy.ca
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    Even if it wasn’t intentional

    • he directly stated in a speech that he approved funding transfer to Hamas to help them grow in power to keep the people divided

    • they moved soldiers away from the border to the west bank to help with settlements

    • as this article suggests, they had a lot of warnings

    Those 3 points alone should be enough to send him and his party away, and until that happens (and until Hamas is also removed from power), that region won’t see peace.

    We need to let the legal system do its job, and for both Likud & Hamas to be removed from power through LEGAL MEANS by the people they say they represent.

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      Those 3 points alone should be enough to send him and his party away, and until that happens (and until Hamas is also removed from power), that region won’t see peace.

      About your Hamas part, Hamas has historically participated in ceasefire agreements in good faith. It’s Israel who doesn’t (hell they didn’t completely follow the current agreement). Why I’m saying this is that the “and Hamas is also removed from power” part is basically Israeli propaganda, because it makes it seem like even if Israel tries to make peace with Palestinians it won’t happen until Hamas is removed (likely by force), which makes things like this current war easier to swallow.

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        You must be new to the planet if you believe Hamas will ever settle for a two state solution

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          Y’all seem to forget that Hamas is the weaker side here. If Gazans get something they can accept Hamas won’t be able to refuse. Also historically they’ve been cooperative with Israeli peace efforts.

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        Sorry, I will highlight the important bit

        Removed from power through legal means, by the people they state they represent. Removing either group with violence will beget more violence. A new entity with the same ideology will fill the gap.

        Hamas as an organization has its own problems, and they share a lot of the same issues as Likud. They both hold on to power through violence and fear.

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          Oh yeah Hamas definitely has a lot of problems, and while I don’t know a lot about Gaza’s internal affairs they’re probably not the people who should be ruling Gaza after the conflict ends. That said, one of the things they do right is following ceasefire agreements until it’s obvious Israel has no intention of doing the same (2008 and 2012 come to mind).

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        Hamas has historically participated in ceasefire agreements in good faith.

        Not in the last years that come in my mind, It was Islamic Jihad in 2022 but they couldn’t do without Hamas allowing them to. Every single time it was games who started escalation, even if they’ve claimed that it was “defending of Al Aqsa” or something similar

        hell they didn’t completely follow the current agreement

        Yes, Israel have, they haven’t attacked and released prisoners they should’ve and allowed trucks with humanitarian aid, while Hamas carried a terror attack in Jerusalem (yesterday)

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          Edit: Citation needed. Israel continued bombing, albeit with a reduced frequency, throughout the period of the current pause. That’s not following anything.

          Also I can’t find that thing about 2022.

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            Israel haven’t continued bombing in the time of the current ceasefire, can you please give the source of the claim?

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              Okay I checked now and I actually can’t find it. I guess I’ll have to take that back until I can find a source.