Dave Chappelle has released a new Netflix special, The Dreamer, which is full of jokes about the trans community and disabled people.

“I love punching down!” he tells the audience, in a one-hour show that landed on the streaming service today (31 December).

It’s his seventh special for Netflix and comes two years after his last one, the highly controversial release The Closer.

That programme was criticised for its relentless jokes about the trans community, and Chappelle revisits the topic in his new show.

He tells jokes about trans women in prison, and about trans people “pretending” to be somebody they are not.

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    ITT: People who suck out all of the context and humor out of a joke and then insist it was never funny (even though the dude sells out arenas and everyone laughs and he’s widely considered by comedy fans and other comics to be a living GOAT). Comedy is democratic. You can’t say the stand up comedian is this or that, because he is telling jokes.

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      Comedy is part of a conversation, all art is, an artist is using their medium to say something. He has a massive platform and he is choosing to encourage even more hate against trans people. Even if his jokes about it weren’t so played out and dumb there are endless things he could joke about. It’s an asshole move and he chooses this topic probably because he knows it riles people up, because he is lazy and has nothing better to joke about.

      He is one of the GOATs if you look at his history and he probably can still make good jokes about better topics if he chose to. Massive assholes have had huge crowds plenty throughout history, it just proves that plenty of people are dicks too.

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      You can’t say the stand up comedian is this or that, because he is telling jokes.

      Yes you can lol

      He wasn’t hired to read a script. He wrote and rehearsed the jokes he chooses to tell

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      To be fair, Just because poeple Like it doesnt mean it is good. Hitler was elected too. Im Not saying he is a bad comedian, i dont know him. I Just think the Argument “it is good because its popular” ist Bad.

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          He did try to coup in 1923, but that failed and which ended him in “jail”,where he wrote Mein Kampf. And He was appointed as “Reichskanzler” in 1933. The nsdap got about 17.4 Million votes that year. Wikipedia page

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          Pretty much. Look at Kevin Hart.

          Is there a more boring comedian? I have not found a single joke of his even mildly funny.

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          You want me to read a book, but you cant even read my other comment in which i wrote he was appointed. My Point was that his ideology was widely supported.

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        I see. My argument here is more like “many diverse groups of people basically unanimously had the same involuntary reaction to the jokes, therefore the jokes are funny.”

        If I show a steak to a room full of people and 99% of their mouths water, we can safely say that the steak is appetizing.

        My other point is when you strip away from a joke the context, innuendo, voice, and attitude, or you go in prejudging the comedian, you have so altered the material that it cannot be fairly judged.

        I’ve seen all the specials and he’s never struck me as any sort of bigot.

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          As a queer who has watched essentially everything he’s released in his career, he has always had material that came off as bigoted against queer and trans people, and I’ve still been a fan of his until recently but I don’t have a strong judgement on what his actual views might be, comedians always try to be controversial. What are the diverse groups you are talking about? Has there been some kind of objective study on the average response to his comedy? It’s always been popular among a decent number to make fun of queers and trans people, women, disabled people, other groups, does that mean we can’t still say “wow fuck that guy” when they do it?

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      By that logic, your comment having more downvotes than upvotes means it’s a bad take.

      He sells out arenas because there are a lot of assholes who think his bigotry is funny. Or people who didn’t realize he was gonna keep on that line and left disappointed.

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      considered by comedy fans and other comics to be a living GOAT

      I hope someday people go back and look at all of these goats in their writing that aren’t referring to farm animals and wind up with the greatest cringe of all time.

      EDIT: Seriously, “GOAT” is a stupid acronym that I blame crappy sports punditry for…people sound like idiots saying it.