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      he voted for don’t ask don’t tell and publicly advocated against gays in any sort of federal and government service since the 70’s

      UPDATE: i was thinking defense of marriage act; don’t ask don’t tell was a policy that biden supported but never had the option of voting for.

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          close enough; but thanks for catching that

          i need to like biden and i need some kind of justification for voting for him besides not being trump and him being complicit in an active genocide.

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            Trump’s base are the cryptofascists who do not hide the fact that they are coming for the gays.

            Maybe providence didn’t see fit to give you the choice of saving all Palestinian lives, but it certainly seems to be giving you the choice to save your own.

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              Maybe providence didn’t see fit to give you the choice of saving all Palestinian lives, but it certainly seems to be giving you the choice to save your own.

              holy hyperbole batman!!!

              biden’s past and future actions have and will fuck up my life several times before i die; meanwhile trump has unwittingly helped.

              also biden’s track record of supporting the status quo no matter what, especially when it comes to lgbt issues and human rights; proves that he would also willingly go along with whatever laws that those cryptofacists successfully sustain through congress and the supreme court. (sometimes there are signs that he may have grown a conscience, so i want to be clear: he won’t like it, but he’ll go along with it willingly).

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                Trump has helped your life as a member of the gay community?

                And you are posting from .ml?

                I’m curious, but on alert.

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                  even a broken clock is right twice a day; but in trump’s case it was only once. lol

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                    can you be specific about what trump action was helpful to you??? Just for fairness biden has directly helped me with no surprise billing, banning con competes, many infrstructure repairs and improvements in my area that got money from the ombudsman bill, and this one is a bit less direct but rejoining the paris accord was huge for me. So anyway im curious of the trump actions that helped you specifically because from my seat its been squat.

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            As W.C. Fields said, “I never vote for anybody, I always vote against.”

            Not being Trump should be enough. Trump literally says he’s going to be a dictator. Based on that alone, ignoring every other point about Trump, you should vote for Biden.

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              I’m genuinely scared Trump will win. I don’t even live in USA and I’m scared of it happening. I could totally see Trump pulling out of NATO and then lives being lost because of it.

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                I’m scared too. But a lot can happen between now and November and I have to keep reminding myself of that.

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              that would probably be enough for me too if biden hadn’t fucked my life 6 times so far; while trump has only accidentally helped.

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                  i’m expounding upon my difficulty in justifying my vote for biden; before the genocide i was going to hold my nose and do it and now i’m no longer sure i can even do that.

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                    Because Trump won’t continue to aid in that genocide despite already saying he would?

                    It’s going to be either Trump or Biden. If you don’t vote for Biden, you risk getting the dictator. That should be a very easy choice for you.

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            You’re just a complete fucking idiot, aren’t ya. Make sure that when you see facts, you double down on your dumbassness.

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              You’re just a complete fucking idiot, aren’t ya. Make sure that when you see facts, you double down on your dumbassness.

              the fact is that he’s enabling a genocide and you’re clearly a psychopath for believing that’s a dumbass issue.

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        I’m sorry for what you had to go through, but we’ve advanced a great deal in the last 30 years with regard to social acceptance of homosexuality. Any time you have rapid progress on any issue, you’ll have people whose position changed dramatically in that time period.

        Those people should be celebrated. Admitting you’ve been entirely wrong on a social and moral issue is very difficult. By continuing to villify those who change their position to join you in the fight you make it more difficult to gather support.

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          Any time you have rapid progress on any issue, you’ll have people whose position changed dramatically in that time period.

          By continuing to villify those who change their position to join you in the fight you make it more difficult to gather support.

          given his history and his most recent actions: it’s clear he hasn’t changed and that progress is nothing more than transparent attempts to gain votes; as he has always done.

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            Politicinaa adapting their positions to be more in-line with the will of the people in order to secure votes is exactly how representative democracy is supposed to work.

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              Politicinaa adapting their positions to be more in-line with the will of the people in order to secure votes is exactly how representative democracy is supposed to work.

              which biden will also do, as he has done, if project 2025 manages to succeed.