• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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        Yeah, but like, isn’t that where the majority of people live?

        So when talking about “most places” it makes sense for it to be “places most likely for people to live”. If it was literally “most places” America is pretty fucking empty.

        I googled it, the average price for an acre in Kansas is like 3.5k.

        In “most places” it’s cheap as hell. But no one lives there so why talk about it?

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          That’s the talking point and semantics the rich want us to believe. That there’s plenty of places to live that are cheap.

          They don’t tell the real truth that the majority of the US is desolate country and wilderness that no one wants to live or work.

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            And “flyover” states 100k a year is like a millionaire…

            So if going by “most places” you’d be using like 25k or even lower.

            I get what you’re saying semantically, it’s just that if we’re being that semantic it’s meaningless, so clearly the other interpretation is what was meant.

            Like, when someone uses “literally” you can tell what was intended.

            You didn’t notice the forrest because all the trees were in the way homie.

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              my point is that the term “middle class” is corpo propaganda…

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          4 days ago

          median household US income is under 80K.

          even most major metros are still under 100k.

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              it puts you into about 60-80% of the american households.

              middle class by default would be 40-60%

              “It’s barely middle class for most places now.” is hyperbolic

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                That assumes a normal distribution. Wealth/income is not. An excellent resource is: Social Stratification in the United States: The American Profile Poster of Who Owns What, Who Makes How Much, and Who Works Where https://a.co/d/09LVTyYi

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                I don’t think your definition of middle class is what most people use when they talk about it.

                This is really obvious if you think about people remarking on the death of the middle class. They’re not saying that the mean or the median doesn’t exist. They are saying that families like the Simpsons are much less common than they used to be.

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                  They are saying that families like the Simpsons are much less common than they used to be

                  The fact that you are using a reference to corporate media to make your point gave me a chuckle lol

                  This shit is weaved so deep into social fabric, we are fucked.

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                  whatever a person thinks it is haha

                  however, if we rely on something about more concrete than feelz like stats, it would be the middle of the population