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Wouldn’t actual data privacy laws stop this all the same? I can’t help but feel this weird song and dance avoiding the privacy argument exists so US companies don’t get in the crossfire for doing the same shit with your data.
No way in hell they’d ever argue data privacy.
That’s only for apple to pretend to care about while selling your data to brokers.
Sorry Apple is selling user data to data brokers now?
Yeah. They do have their own data collection practices and privacy policies. IIRC, meta was crying over Apple implementing permission data for apps since it would allow people to back off from meta but Apple would be sole winner from that move.
Yeah I was curious about Apple selling data to brokers, which I think would be new news. For Meta yeah that was the ios14 update, which really messed with their bottom line apparently lol
I think I was mistaken on that point. They’re not publicly doing that - just selling ads.
Yes, but congress just authorized a bunch of new surveillance
Affective legislation rather knee jerk reactionary politics? Not in America, buddy.
Remember the golden rule of American thought:
CHINA BAD.
Both can be true, poor US legislation that protects their buddies (investors), and China’s bad
No, because it’s more about the curation algorithm than it is about the data or privacy.
Regulating curation is a clear violation of free speech laws for citizens, but foreign entity that controls TikTok has no such protections. Giving them this protection could be a dangerous precedent.
This is still a problem with US based platforms, though.
I would think people of the fediverse of all places would feel strongly about allowing users to control their own curation rather than allowing private companies to dictate what individual users see.
America already controls the TikTok servers. It all needs to be hosted on Oracle, and Oracle can see the source code.
The ban makes no sense seeing the previous requirements.
Oracle can see the source code
What? Surely that’s not true
Oracle can see the source code or the binary?
Yeah I don’t think this person knows what they’re talking about, they must either think ByteDance is hosting the source code on Oracle’s servers or they somehow think that binaries are the same as source code 🤷
I think this person very well knows what they are talking about
TikTok got forced to host all on Oracle servers and store all information there. And have mandatory code inspections.
This was after Trump tried to ban it citing “security concerns”.
The funniest part is that back then Microsoft was supposedly trying to buy TikTok and Trump made sure that wouldn’t happen
Microsoft was reported to be in talks of acquiring TikTok. Later that day, President Trump announced plans to ban TikTok in the United States, and signaled opposition to any sale to a U.S.-based company. Trump’s ban threat and his indication he would oppose any sale to an American buyer was condemned by TikTok users, many of whom argued that national security concerns were being used as a cover by the administration to justify a ban as retaliation for pranks aimed at Trump by TikTok users (particularly, a ticket-purchasing effort to inflate projected and depress actual attendance of his June 20 campaign rally in Tulsa, Oklahoma) and other content satirizing Trump or critical of him and his actions, especially in relation to his response to the George Floyd protests.
Where did you get the idea that Oracle can see their source code? That only applies if they host their source repository on Oracle, if they host the servers there chances are it’s binaries that are hosted on the server not the source code.
May 2023 - TikTok Will ‘Soon’ Grant Oracle Full Access to Code, Algorithm
(Bloomberg) – TikTok will “soon” grant Oracle Corp. full access to its source code, algorithm and content-moderation material as part of efforts to alleviate national security concerns about the app.
Oracle will also begin monitoring the controlled gateways where data comes in and out of the secure environment it set up on servers to host data from TikTok’s US users, according to a statement from the social media company Monday.
This is about military bases, bud.
Then why is it not limited to military personnel?
Wasn’t Facebook proven to give misleading information that led old people to vote for Trump that was ultimately from Russia propaganda sources? Where’s the Meta ban?
This is the best summary I could come up with:
TikTok sued Tuesday to block a US law that could force a nationwide ban of the popular app, following through on legal threats the company issued after President Joe Biden signed the legislation last month.
The court challenge sets up a historic legal battle, one that will determine whether US security concerns about TikTok’s links to China can trump the First Amendment rights of TikTok’s 170 million US users.
If it loses, TikTok could be banned from US app stores unless its Chinese parent company, ByteDance, sells the app to a non-Chinese entity by mid-January 2025.
In its petition filed Tuesday at the US Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit, TikTok and Bytedance allege the law is unconstitutional because it stifles Americans’ speech and prevents them from accessing lawful information.
The petition claims the US government “has taken the unprecedented step of expressly singling out and banning” the short-form video app in an unconstitutional exercise of congressional power.
“For the first time in history,” the petition said, “Congress has enacted a law that subjects a single, named speech platform to a permanent, nationwide ban, and bars every American from participating in a unique online community with more than 1 billion people worldwide.”
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Ok then, let’s sue for the Chinese ban of literally most of the Internet. Where can I find the court that gives a shit about countries who don’t wanna participate in other countries Internet toys and what the fuck are they gonna do about it?
So… the company that was removed for spreading propaganda is suing for being removed for spreading propaganda and is using…. checks notes: propaganda as evidence.
This should be fun!
Once again, the app isnt going to be banned unless the CCCP refuses to divest from TikTok
#1. The CCCP is Soviet Russia. #2. The requirement is that Bytedance sells tiktok (along with it’s proprietary algorithms) to a US based company.
Once again, the app isnt going to be banned unless the CCCP refuses to divest from TikTok
CCCP 😂🤣😂. Fuck me that’s hilarious.
Well, then the only hope it has of winning is on first amendment grounds because they already said that they would not be willing to sell the algorithm.
Rough life.
Fuck mega corps including govt owned ones that arent actually owned by the people.
Meta, Amazon, etc should all get fuked as well
They’re only unwilling until they’re out of other options.
They will gladly not have their service in US than selling it to a competitor that could pose a bigger threat to their income.
It doesn’t have to be in the US, just not China, N. Korea, Russia, or Iran. So I think it’s a possibility.
Yep its going to get banned.
Also I think you mean CCP
Besides what other people have said, there’s virtually no chance of the CCP divesting from TikTok.
