- cross-posted to:
- software_gore@programming.dev
- cross-posted to:
- software_gore@programming.dev
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A windows dialogue saying "Select an app to open this ‘msteams’ link. The suggested apps are Microsoft teams, with a “new” subtext, and MicroSoft Teams, with the word new in its icon.
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I had a lady at work the other day that had 3 different versions of Outlook and she opened the 2 of the 3 that just don’t work. An update replaced the desktop shortcut and added a new worse version.
And yet people think Linux (mint) is so hard to use and absolutely no replacement for windows.
Linux: go to app store, click install. Done
Windows: go to app store, click install done.
Literally the same process, only Linux doesn’t randomly update your apps and make them crash. My windows installation at work literally had 3 outlook variants at some point (just like you mentioned) and none of them worked.
I literally never was forced to use the terminal in Linux (well I did but not because I had to) and in windows I have to do shitty things in the register to get back functions (like that terrible decision to hide the “refresh” in the context menu).
I genuinely think MS has gone down the enshittification route and I’m not just preaching to the choir. I have every day (sadly have to use it at work) annoyances with windows and Linux just works…
We have Teams set to automatically launch for every user at login, even though we don’t use it in our organization in any way.
We did the opposite. Teams is prevented from even installing any components by our endpoint security. Same with OneDrive.
The only downside is that Office installs have to be handled manually due to needing to click a couple errors screens. Office updates work fine, just new installs. Small price to pay.
Seeing how you wrote “opposite”, I expected you prevented it even though requiring employees to use it :D
Haha, no there’s enough other stupid things elsewhere in the organization. The various IT teams actually have the budget and decisionmaking power to do what is necessary for the business.
Sometimes though that does mean implementing some sub-optimal solutions too quickly because that’s what they already know, instead of doing research on possible alternatives. A lack of red tape sometimes means a similar outcome as too much red tape.
Genuine question - why block onedrive if you are licensed for it?
Because it makes its own damn file paths as default and tries to put everything in rnr cloud causing people to lose track of files
I hated that shit at my last job. Constantly trying to save shit locally only to realize I accidentally saved something on the cloud.
I have a hard drive you fucks. I want to point there by default. No I don’t want you reading all my shit.
IIRC there is a way to turn off auto sync in OneDrive app (while also making all the synced files offline), but it’s somehow not that apparent
I used to have this in my precious work. It drove me nuts, because single sync error could fuck up files and make them disappear like they would be deleted
That was a year ago and i didn’t touch Windows since, so correct me if i’m wrong
And break applications that made the weird assumption that a file just saved was accessible where it was saved. My solution (after a wtf moment because it wasn’t obvious what was going on) was to try to pull it locally, then use the OneDrive path to pull it.
Except that didn’t work either. I guess scripts pulling from the cloud looks like a security issue.
So I just reverted back to the user doing saving and loading manually. Can’t have nice things.
I don’t handle licensing, so don’t know how that portion is setup exactly… but from the actual use standpoint… we don’t need or want anything to sync with third party cloud services unless absolutely necessary.
We have 5 properties across the state and operate our own redundant file servers and synchronous connections. We don’t need or want cloud backup, it just adds additional complications and failure points. Not to mention opening up yet another possible attack vector.
Last year they fixed our group policy that repinned internet explorer to your taskbar on every boot.
Teams will load, and we don’t use it. Even better, other things we do use will break if teams isn’t logged into correctly.
Then when you have a meeting, you open teams it says you’re not licensed for this version and to contact you company administration so you open the other one and can’t log in
I’d use the new one
That narrows it down to 2 of the 2 options
Yep
Nah man, we have all migrated to new teams.
New, or new new?
I prefer classic new teams
New (new) Teams is actually Classic New Teams v2, so what you know as Classic New Teams is properly called Classic New Teams v2 Legacy (new).
I personally only use New Super Teams U Deluxe
newNewFinal
It’s actually discord, but I don’t know the difference.
Is it live or is it Memorex?
Couldn’t this be the web version fighting the installed application?
No, Microsoft, in their infinite wisdom, made a new teams, which they called “New Teams” to differentiate it from the old teams, known as “Teams.” the old teams was installed newer so its the new old teams, whereas the new teams is old.
Hope this helps!
They didn’t just…update Teams? That’s insanity, but I also just fought with bluetooth drivers on Thursday on my PC and it was a fucking disaster mess shitshow. My favourite part was knowing that the control panel is still there and functional even though there’s “settings” now, which does essentially the same stuff but also it’s different and also if you’re a new user or not paying attention you might not even know the control panel exists.
Not only is it bad to start but they seem intent on making it worse with every update.
The older variant of Teams was delivered with Office and is an Electron app, the newer variant was delivered as part of Windows 11 and uses a shared Edge view (basically Electron but Edge-based and memory-shared)…
I think there are also feature differences, as in: The newer version has fewer features.
From the geniuses who brought you the XBox One, not to be confused with the XBox that came first. And the XBox Series X, not to be confused with the XBox One X.
When Apple had the iPhone X instead of the 10, it was a little weird but if made sense at least. And they didn’t go X > 10, but 9 > X > 11. I still don’t know what the Xbox was trying to do with the Series X, but I’m not sure they did either. And why “series”, what is that supposed to even mean?!
Don’t think so, this screenshot looks older to me and was probably taken during the transition to the Teams rewrite, Teams (new). So the user has both old and new Teams installed, which was a common occurrence as you could switch between them with a toggle button.
