When asked why the British author's views on trans people aligned with the Nazis, and Rowling said that Nazis did not persecute trans people.

The most famous forms of Holocaust denial and revisionism tend to focus on Jews, casting doubt, for example, on how many were exterminated in the camps. But denying the impact the Nazis had on the other groups they targeted, including queer and trans people, disabled people and Romani people, is still Holocaust denial. Maybe someone should tell J.K. Rowling.

    • Killing_Spark@feddit.de
      35·
      8 months ago

      Trans, gay, Romani, Black people all got deported to concentration camps as well as jews. The death machinery worked against a lot of people, even if it was designed to exterminate jews.

      They even had a badgesystem to visually identify for what “crime” someone was in the camp.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Identification_of_inmates_in_Nazi_concentration_camps

      Edit: As well as other groups of people, a complete lists is basically impossible. Communists where early victims, but disabled people where also brought to the camps and killed for the “Volksgesundheit”.

    • mods_are_assholes@lemmy.world
      27·
      8 months ago

      You can’t become more right just by being angry

      Your summarized argument is thus:

      It’ can’t be Holocaust denial because I’m only denying PART of the Holocaust

      Correct?

      If so, then you are wrong. Sorry.

      I don’t make the rules but you really should follow them.

      • admin@lemmy.today
        323·
        8 months ago

        Your summarized argument is thus:

        It’ can’t be Holocaust denial because I’m only denying PART of the Holocaust

        Correct?

        No, My argument is one is history illiterate asshole while the other is special-grade asshole, and putting both under the same blanket gives the latter one more power,

        Just like there are stupid people who think the moon landing is fake and then there are anti-vaxxers, one is just stupid while the latter is much more destructive and potentially harmful to society.

        there are overlaps between them and they can be totally categorized as one but we need separation to neutralize the potential damage they can cause.

        • Leviathan@lemmy.world
          11·
          8 months ago

          one is history illiterate asshole while the other is special-grade asshole

          I contend that they are the same type of asshole with the same goal but they present their arguments in a way that makes a portion of the populace jump ever so slightly onto their side. If they can get people to agree that one portion of the Holocaust was more tragic than another then they have already begun to chip away at what made the Holocaust so horrendous. Holocaust denial isn’t about not thinking it happened, it’s about pretending they think it didn’t happen to devillainize their side. Just because they picked one group affected by the Holocaust over another doesn’t make it any less Holocaust denial, it just makes it Holocaust denial that doesn’t bother you, meaning they won.

          First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist

Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist

Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist

Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew

Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

          Classic nazi tactic to come for groups you don’t care about so they can eventually come for you.

        • fustigation769curtain@lemmy.world
          221·
          8 months ago

          How can an opinion be “factually wrong?”

          Lol.

          There you go doing it again. Pretending that anyone who goes against the tribe is immediately, factually wrong.

          Thanks for proving my point.

          • Killing_Spark@feddit.de
            193·
            8 months ago

            They are not factually wrong becuase their opinion does not match the popular opinion. They are factually wrong because their opinion does not align with the fact that the holocaust was not only about exterminating jews.

            How can an opinion be “factually wrong?”

            If I formed the opinion that the third Reich did not want to exterminate disabled people as part of the holocaust that would be factually wrong. That’s how facts and opinions work.

              • Killing_Spark@feddit.de
                161·
                8 months ago

                Let’s quote the oxford dictionary then:

                opinion (noun) your feelings or thoughts about somebody/something, rather than a fact

                In this context the opinion is the thought that the holocaust was only about exterminating jews. This thought does not align with the facts.

              • magnusrufus@lemmy.world
                111·
                8 months ago

                People have the opinion that the climate isn’t changing. People have the opinion that the world is flat. People have the opinion everyone with dark skin is sub human.

                Some people frame their terrible views as opinions so they can use the bad faith argument that it’s just a difference of opinions so everyone should just be ok with their hateful or ignorant stances. Some people frame their terrible views as opinions to try and avoid valid criticism of their opinions contradictions with reality.

                You are fervently engaging in a behavior exhibited by the hateful and ignorant and there is a pretty safe bet as to why.