Recently I was simultaneously banned from a huge pile of “communities” with a mod commentary “for upvoting homophobic materials”(or “transphonic”, I don’t remember exactly). This kind of bans is the very reason why I quit Reddit. Is it normal here, or is it just some feral mod from Reddit?

P.S. Before you sidestep/offtop/ad-hominem here: no, I have nothing against LGBT folk and absolutely not interested in the theme.

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    You got banned from trans friendly communities for making transphobic comments, then upvoting other transphobic comments. The rest of your removed comments speak volumes about your character, so I suspect the rest of the bans are preemptive. I don’t blame them. Reddit is probably a better choice for you.

    https://lemmy.ml/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=18040122

    More action here:

    https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=16876741

    Edit: Choice “I’m not against LGBT” comment quote -

    So… People who couldn’t keep from shouting about their “pronouns” irritated bystanders so much that they were ready to vote even for Trump just to shut up those crazy pronouns-bearers :)

    Right.

    Edit2: mein Gott, there’s more! Totally no LGBT issues here.

    Your response to this pro-Trans meme about the world being a better place with Trans folk in it:

    BUT WITHOUT YOU IT WOULD BE EXCELLENT!

    Right2. Did you not realize mod logs are public?

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    oh yea, I remember your name! someone posted a pro trans meme saying “the world is better with you in it.” and you responded something like, ‘it would be even better without you’. I hope you get banned again.

  • Yes banning people for votes, fraudulent, excessive, or made seeminly in bad faith is a thing. Mods can view votes these days but also admins have been able to view them for a long time.

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    That most likely wasn’t a moderator, but an administrator. The ability to view votes in communities for mods is not available in the latest release of Lemmy yet. That will come in the next release, 1.0.0.

    Though I can’t see any modlog entries for your account. Did you get instance banned and created a new account here?

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        Oof… yeah, that sort of tea kettle of targeted rage and violence seems more like a 4chan user. They also happened to find themself on some of the instances that have reputations of their own (I’m not referring to either of the two instances that you mentioned). Should I pre-emptively type Lembot_0003 to 9999 into my blocked accounts list?

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        being banned on .ml communities for “rule 1” is extremely vague though, since they’ll call you a xenophobe for criticising China.

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          Yeah, and those aren’t tied to a comment or anything it’s harder to make an opinion of our own. But for the communities I mentioned there are visible comments, and … I think OP wouldn’t have a good time at lemmy.ml, hexbear or blahaj, or even any instance where some common decency is expected.

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      Yes, I deleted the previous account. It was banned from the half of the communities I cared about anyway.

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    .ml is notorious for arbitrary bans so I wouldn’t think too much about it. There are active alternatives for most (but probably not all) communities hosted there. Criticizing Russia there is also a great way to get in trouble with the admins because they’re explicitly tankies.

    • lol, no. No one has ever been banned from .ml for “criticizing Russia.” Even the communist admins of .ml have no love for modern Russia which is a capitalist country, they just know that throwing every single working class Ukrainian person into the meat grinder is the best way forward. And “tankies,” as the above commenter is using the term, are just people who recognize that history existed prior to February of 2022.

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    This place is exactly as shitty as Reddit is. Just “decentralized”. I have already mentioned this elsewhere. Don’t you dare not being part of some circle jerk or to have a slightly unpopular opinion. And no, I’m not talking about LGBT rights nor anything related to it.

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        See, you’re part of the problem, because you likely agree with banning/removing people even for slightly discordant opinions. And about the content removed for racist slur, I didn’t have an idea that “Japs” was such a thing (not everybody is from USA, nor a native english speker, you know…). If our cared to read the entire thread, it would have been clear to you.

        Congrats for having the time to virtually stalk me, btw.

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          ”Japs”

          I speak two languages. I learned pejorative terms fairly early on in my language learning endeavor since i prefer not to offend people with a simple mistake. Maybe you should do the same for english since you seem to be mostly fluent.

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            I speak 3 languages, for that matters, but let’s be real, one can’t be aware of each and every slightly offending term on each one of them. I can honestly say that I didn’t read about “japs” anywhere and that I just found it amusing when it came to my mind (the thread was about an amusing meme). Anyway, I’ll take care from now on.

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            My question is what led the OP to check my modlog. If they are trying to invalidate my opinion, that’s not the way.

            • I’ve moderated a community on Reddit before and received ban appeals that look like this:

              I said some mean stuff and I told them to shut up, and they were worthless. I understand it’s rude, but I don’t think that it’s enough to permanently ban me from participating in this subreddit.

              Meanwhile, in the mod log, it’s revealed that the banned user didn’t say any of that — they actually just used the n-word.

              As a result, people are sensitive that some people complaining about mod policies are actually racists that would rather lie than admit the real reason they were banned, even when the actual reason is public knowledge.

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                Well, not my case. Looks like once I used a pejorative term, just because I found it amusing (without knowing it was a racial slur in some countries). Shit may happen when you’re not a native speaker (and sometimes it happens even when you are).

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                  Looks like once I used a pejorative term, just because I found it amusing (without knowing it was a racial slur in some countries).

                  Maybe if you showed any sort of contrition instead of continually providing excuses as to why it’s not a problem people would believe it was just a mistake.

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        What in particular prompts you to reply that to a user? As in, do you have a plug-in or something that indicates the number of mod actions taken against a user? Or do you recognize usernames and follow them around as they reply? The number of mod actions also doesn’t necessarily reflect the character of a user since there are always some unjust mods, and there are some actions which mods can take that aren’t punitive (ex. pinning posts).

        Additionally, it comes across as an ad hominem attack.

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          This is true. My own mod log is marred by a mod that called me a pedo for absolutely no reason. Feel free to check.

          Then again, the number isn’t necessarily the issue but the contents, right? Which we can also check and judge for ourselves.

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            I understand how to access it. I was meaning more so what sparks your motivation to investigate and/or share your findings?

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              To keep from weighing in on something in error.

              You kinda hey in the habit of at least a cursory mod log check if you spend any time on powertrippingbastards, or the modabuse communities.

              A shit ton of people will make claims of being sweet, innocent little users while have a long and nasty history of fucking with people.

              So, you learn to either check mod logs, or be willing to take heat for jumping in too quickly.

              In this post, OP is essentially saying they were falsely accused of something. The only way to know what the deal is, is mod logs and user history. On the surface it could be just like OP claims, particularly when dealing with .ml since they’re known to be trippin.

              Turns out, OP is a douchbag and can fuck right off, and the only way to know that is by checking. Blaze is one of those people that, for good or ill, devotes a ton of time and energy into making lemmy a useful and fluid experience. They pretty much always go the extra mile. Some folks are just like that. I’m way too lazy to do it regularly, but I gotta respect the ones that put that effort in

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                That’s the train of thought indeed, thanks

                Blaze is one of those people that, for good or ill, devotes a ton of time and energy into making lemmy a useful and fluid experience.

                Yes, I personally think that if we want this platform to ever reach 100k monthly active users, we have to demonstrate that this platform is better at dealing with trolls than Reddit. Public modlogs help with that, and using them in that way seems reasonable.

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      Bummer. And do we actually have some more or less free-to-speak alternatives? I’m not some kind of religious fanatic assembling a nuclear bomb. I just want some reasonable freedom to say what I want. Nothing special.

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        Due to the decentralisation and federation, you can find your “alternative” communities within the fediverse itself, or start new ones

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          Even the most “crowdy” ones are semi-dead. I don’t need internet to talk with myself in the case of “start new ones” :)

          Well, I guess, I’ll just try to stick with communities with fewer moderators.