I usually go by Umberto Eco’s points but some scholars added their own. By and large, most agree that aspects such as militarism, demonization of out-groups, belief in a strongman authority figure, and lack recognition of civil rights and liberties are key characteristics of fascism. Trump 2.0 has most if not all the characteristics of fascism. Even now, Trump refuses to comply with court orders, has police harass and grab people without lawful warrant, demonizes out-groups and threatening military action.
Trump is the president who happens to be the leading figure of MAGA movement and Project 2025, which are unquestionably fascist movements, and seeing as how his administration deliberately ignore court rulings and thereby undermining civil liberties, which is the key characteristic of fascism.
That’s not true and even a glance at first encyclopaedia you can get your hands on can disprove this. This is a very broad characteristic of many ideologies such as Bolshevism
“Red fascist” is a term used pejoratively, you know? Are you saying Trump is a Bolshevik instead?
While both are authoritarians, one of the difference between Bolshevism/communism and fascism is that the latter embraces ultraconservatism and romanticising an idyllic past, whereas communists don’t. Trump and co. yearns back to some idyllic past and a return to it in some form. One of the definition of fascism is romanticising some glorious past when their people and things were “better”.
The definition I find useful is, Fascism is when an imperial power begins applying colonial policies to citizens in its core.
So, for a practical example, the United States has used extra-judicial black sites to disappear and torture people the CIA/pentagon deem enemies for decades. Locking up people in El Salvador without (constitutionally mandatory) trial or legal council is just that policy brought home.
What exactly is there to dispute with a government that is trying to carve a unitary executive out of a 3 branch system, admires Nazis, has ties to actual neo-Nazis and leaders who have literally seig heiled, and is currently turning an agency into the gestapo and deporting anyone he wants to concentration camps?
I don’t even understand what fascism means in each case on lemmy and whether it is a fixed term or some adaptive catch it all
I usually go by Umberto Eco’s points but some scholars added their own. By and large, most agree that aspects such as militarism, demonization of out-groups, belief in a strongman authority figure, and lack recognition of civil rights and liberties are key characteristics of fascism. Trump 2.0 has most if not all the characteristics of fascism. Even now, Trump refuses to comply with court orders, has police harass and grab people without lawful warrant, demonizes out-groups and threatening military action.
I think it is rather controversial to use it in this way
There are scholarly consensus already. It is not controversial. Unless you are trying to muddy the water.
Scholarly consensus that some president is fascist?
Fascism is a precise term for a specific political movement. not some “I don’t like this” adjective
Trump is the president who happens to be the leading figure of MAGA movement and Project 2025, which are unquestionably fascist movements, and seeing as how his administration deliberately ignore court rulings and thereby undermining civil liberties, which is the key characteristic of fascism.
That’s not true and even a glance at first encyclopaedia you can get your hands on can disprove this. This is a very broad characteristic of many ideologies such as Bolshevism
“Red fascist” is a term used pejoratively, you know? Are you saying Trump is a Bolshevik instead?
While both are authoritarians, one of the difference between Bolshevism/communism and fascism is that the latter embraces ultraconservatism and romanticising an idyllic past, whereas communists don’t. Trump and co. yearns back to some idyllic past and a return to it in some form. One of the definition of fascism is romanticising some glorious past when their people and things were “better”.
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Yes, because then you have to recognize a lot of communists as fascist. Dessalines won’t like that.
“Red fascist” is a term used pejoratively, you know?
The definition I find useful is, Fascism is when an imperial power begins applying colonial policies to citizens in its core.
So, for a practical example, the United States has used extra-judicial black sites to disappear and torture people the CIA/pentagon deem enemies for decades. Locking up people in El Salvador without (constitutionally mandatory) trial or legal council is just that policy brought home.
What exactly is there to dispute with a government that is trying to carve a unitary executive out of a 3 branch system, admires Nazis, has ties to actual neo-Nazis and leaders who have literally seig heiled, and is currently turning an agency into the gestapo and deporting anyone he wants to concentration camps?
This is a fair point made in an absurd context