• PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPM
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    7 days ago

    So the article stating they gave Clinton control of the victory fund during the primaries is not the same as… giving her money collected by the DNC to allow her collect more than legally allowed by campaign finance laws? Cuz…. The article goes into exactly that?

    Did you not read the fucking article.

    Or did you just not understand it.

    You can keep pretending america is perfect I guess man. Have fun. I’m just saying it’s not.

    Nice backpedal. This you?

    I mean, yall really think Hillary Clinton was not chosen by the state? Or Biden/Harris last year?

    Not really defending China here but, it’s not like our bullshit is better. The DNC and RNC run their bullshit how they want.

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      Sorry, what are you reading in the article? The “technically this wasn’t illegal” and “I didn’t find other evidence other than this funding agreement”?

      It goes into how she skirted campaign finance laws. The DNC is allowed to collect like 15x more than individual campaigns. Allowing the Clinton campaign access to that about a year before the decision for the nominee, means she had access to up to 16x the amount Bernie sanders had access to. Was it technically legal? Sure. Because the DNC is usually controlled by an incumbent there’s nothing making it illegal for that to happen, is it effectively just skirting campaign finance law? Yes.

      I’m sure it’s legal for the CCP to choose the nominees as well. Does not make either of these right.

      (Also, yes I know the DNC and RNC are legally “not the government” but to pretend they don’t have legal control over primaries, have part in actual elections, and help control all of their elected officials who make up the government is a stupid fucking distinction that does not matter unless you’re the type who believes all laws are good and thus it’s morally right as long as it is legal.)

      Also, sorry, saying “we’re not better than China” and saying “just saying we’re not perfect” are… so… different? Like, is the DNC/RNC LITERALLY the state? No. But are they effectively the state? Yeah. Are the perfectly exactly controlling it? No. Are they effectively controlling it? Yes. My point mostly being I’m over people pretending we’re way better than China in every way possible when we’re just as fucking bad. We need to accept we are not good so we can make fucking improvements, not deflect elsewhere to pretend we’re the best.

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        7 days ago

        means she had access to up to 16x the amount Bernie sanders had access to.

        jfc, you are repeatedly demonstrating that you didn’t read or understand the article, or the issue at hand, in favor of some weird conspiracy that I’m sure all your internet buddies have asspatted you for parroting.

        I’m sure it’s legal for the CCP to choose the nominees as well. Does not make either of these right.

        Even if we took your bizarre misreading of events at face value, “The DNC funded one candidate over another during an election” and “The state chooses who the population is allowed to vote for” are fucking miles away from each other.

        Also, sorry, saying “we’re not better than China” and saying “just saying we’re not perfect” are… so… different?

        Yes. Those two things are very different. Anyone with a basic level of literacy would understand that.