That was one of the more interesting SOTU addresses I’ve seen. Personally, I think he said most of the things that needed to be said, and he said them reasonably well. I’m sure he’s going to get some flack for attacking Trump directly (though not by name), but I was frankly glad to see it. Doing otherwise makes it seem like it’s just your typical election/political disagreements, but we’re past that now.

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    You’re giving Trump far too much credit. Wilson, Jackson, Polk, Monroe, and many others were far far worse presidents than Trump. He was bad, yeah, but he was mostly an ineffective tool. He deserves to be stuck at the 45th percentile of presidents. Mediocre, but trending towards sucking Russian dick.

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      Pretty sure Nero was worse too, but here’s the thing: Nero didn’t have the mass propaganda tools and nuclear weapons.

      Advantage: Orange Rapist.

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      Did any of them willingly and consciously allow an epidemic to become pandemic, in turn murdering thousands upon thousands of their own citizens, and others around the world? No?

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        Jackson cause the Trail of Tears, and the longest and deepest (by percentage, not dollar amount) depression in US history.

        Polk created manifest destiny, Monroe the Monroe Doctrine, both of which led to the genocide of the Native Americans

        Wilson wrote Southern Revisionism, segregated The Federal Government, erected a bunch of statues that we are finally tearing down of people that specifically said that they shouldn’t ever have a statue because they were traitors, expanded the presidential powers to tyrannical proportions with the sedition and insurrection act, and set up Wilsonian Doctrine, setting the US on the path of endless wars, not to mention all the wars he started and expanded upon in Central and South America. He also inadvertently caused WWII.

        Trump didn’t come close to those disasters.