I’m more or less with you. I don’t have a huge problem with the subscription stuff right now. But let’s see if they start hiding basic things behind it. I would guess that they will, but I can hope that they won’t.
I don’t want a smart watch. I want a fitness watch and that’s what I have. I love the touch screen on mine, but it also has all the same physical buttons that other Garmins do. AND it disables the touchscreen when I go for my workouts which is perfect.
Agreed, I don’t have a problem with it as it has been announced in that I have no desire for AI stuff and as long as it doesn’t affect my current experience people can knock themselves out with paying for that stuff. Sadly however I don’t believe for a minute it won’t creep into the basic experience like it did for strava for instance and slowly start eroding my experience unless I start paying a subscription. That I think is unacceptable but also seems par for the course these days and it is disgusting.
What you’ve described doesn’t sound too bad as long as you have buttons too. My hatred came from having one of their watches in the past where everything was controlled with the touchscreen and it was an absolute nightmare, particularly trying to end an activity after a long run when it is cold or raining or whatever and it just not responding was the most frustrating bullshit. I am a fan of buttons in general though and miss my physical keyboard on my phone etc.
I’m more or less with you. I don’t have a huge problem with the subscription stuff right now. But let’s see if they start hiding basic things behind it. I would guess that they will, but I can hope that they won’t.
I don’t want a smart watch. I want a fitness watch and that’s what I have. I love the touch screen on mine, but it also has all the same physical buttons that other Garmins do. AND it disables the touchscreen when I go for my workouts which is perfect.
Agreed, I don’t have a problem with it as it has been announced in that I have no desire for AI stuff and as long as it doesn’t affect my current experience people can knock themselves out with paying for that stuff. Sadly however I don’t believe for a minute it won’t creep into the basic experience like it did for strava for instance and slowly start eroding my experience unless I start paying a subscription. That I think is unacceptable but also seems par for the course these days and it is disgusting.
What you’ve described doesn’t sound too bad as long as you have buttons too. My hatred came from having one of their watches in the past where everything was controlled with the touchscreen and it was an absolute nightmare, particularly trying to end an activity after a long run when it is cold or raining or whatever and it just not responding was the most frustrating bullshit. I am a fan of buttons in general though and miss my physical keyboard on my phone etc.
I can just cross my fingers and hope Garmin doesn’t do what Strava did.
As for the touchscreen… What watch was that?? That sounds like a terrible fitness watch.
It was the Garmin Vivoactive I think it was called. I hated it.
I just checked the updated app. You also get customizable charts. This is a feature that is silly to hide behind a paywall.