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      USA was founded by slavers who were the pre-cursors to fascism.

      USA was fascist from inception even before fascism.

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      The Democrats were less obvious but still bow down to corporations.

      "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” — Benito Mussolini.

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        Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.

        i’m struggling to think of a single capitalist state i have some knowledge of that doesn’t work like this. there are probably a few of them…?

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          Merger is the key word.

          Corporates do have some power, to greater or lesser degrees, in most government systems. But very few have the level of control over writing laws and paying politicians that the USA has.

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                oh we had a literal fascist as our head of state very recently and the current one reminds me of us democrats, as in he barely even acknowledges it properly, and even lets fascist policy pass. i think this is definetly a sign lololol

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          Corporatism doesn’t have to come with racism. Technically fascism neither, but nobody uses it like that.

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                oh, they divide by sex and gender too. and they are literally deporting people because of the place they came from in the us.

                and more.

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      It’s a sliding scale and it’s recently descended into unambiguously facist territory.

      Its like diagnosing a disease: just one symptom isn’t conclusive, but when you have all the known symptoms you can be pretty sure what it is.

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      They helped building it, by constantly taking the “moral high ground” (succumbing to fascists, not calling them fascists because some people making racist jokes might weren’t actually fascists).

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      Freedom of the Press still exist

      Exhibit A: The journalist that just exposed the government fucked up on OPSEC, and their attempt to shield their communications from official records as mandated by law, via the use of Signal

      Not completely fascist, yet.

      Then one day, out of nowhere, you’ll hear a bunch of helicopters hovering, sirens wailing, your browser says “Unable to connect”, calls get dropped, SMS says “undeliverable”, phone says “Emergency Only” instead of the carrier name. Then you’ll go to the grocerry store and on the way there, you see a bunch of soldiers with a roadblock thing and… it’s a checkpoint…

      …aaand enjoy! This is the Bad Place (now the actual Bad Place)

      The auto-coup will not be televised (not for those within the regime anyways.

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        Freedom of the Press still exist

        lol. Gotta remember freedom means dollars and press means buying politicians.

        Not to mention the many actual journalists murdered by empire. There have been hundreds in palestine alone… Plus prisoners like chelsea manning, etc.

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          in palestine

          Palestine is under Israeli occupation, and as we all know, Israel doesn’t care about human rights.

          prisoners like chelsea manning

          Publishing the documents weren’t the crime, the crime was obtaining it illegally.

          Similarly, Edward Snowden obtained it illegally, but Glenn Greenwald got it legally from Snowden who has already already obtained the documents. So that’s why Snowden has a criminal case, while the journalist Greenwald never got in trouble for it.

          This is not to say that I agree with their prosecutions, I do not. It’s just that, legally, that’s what’s not currently protected by the First Amendment (although it really should be protected).

          In this case, Jeffrey Goldberg obtained it legally via someone else’s fuck up, that’s why he didn’t get in trouble (yet, but since this administration does not obey laws… we’ll see if anything happens).

          Greenwald and Goldberd would’ve never been able to publish it if this was Russia or China. (Although, it seems like the US is heading in that direction now)