Why are non-European countries even allowed to participate?
All countries associated with the European Broacast Union can participate.
Brazil, Peru, Japan, India, and even China and the US could participate too.
Russia and Lybia used to be part of the EBU but they were suspended. They know what they did.
All countries associated with the European Broacast Union can participate.
Theoretically yes, but associated members (in contrast to full members) still need to be approved on a case by case basis.
Active members (as opposed to associate members) of the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) are eligible to participate; […]. Associate member broadcasters may be eligible to compete, dependent on approval by the contest’s reference group.[49]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest#Participation
Eurovision is organised by the European Broadcasting Union, which includes basically all countries in the European Broadcasting Area (basically Europe + all of the Mediterranean). Those include Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt, Israel, Armenia, etc. They have always been allowed to participate. Australia is an outlier. They just got a special invitation.
Because Australia were mega fans, so they invited us :3
Jesus Christ, yes please!
Are we going to be called anti-Semitic?
Aren’t we anyways? Who cares at this point. Nazi, antisemitic… Russophobe. I’ve been all of these lol. I’ve even been called a homophobe even tho I am literally gay.
This is genius!
New update just dropped
Ya know, when you put it that way
Tap for spoiler
Pun intended. Get rocked.
I don’t see Erdogan being very happy about this map tho
Erdogan doesn’t care about Turkish EU membership.
That doesn’t look as absurd as it might seem at first!
especially once the north pole melts
One hell of a trading block and the EU GDP would leave the MAGA fucks in their dust trail.
As a European, I think it would be pretty funny if, after Brexit, the other parts of the former Empire joined the EU.
But at least right now, membership is probably more of a meme - some solid cooperation and shared institutions would be amazing, though.
EU already said this can’t work. It said in the rules only European countries can join the EU. But something can be worked out, no doubt.
EuropeanWorldwide UnionGlobalists but for real this time.
Membership of the European Economic Area - same as Norway - for example.
Comes with being part of the EU Internal Market, Freedom Of Movement (both ways, of course) and exceptions in a couple of areas (such as fishing rights not being decided by the EU, which I suspect is something that Canada would rather have) but without voting power within the EU.
Canada becomes a France province, easy.
Or France becomes a Canadian one and switch to English as the primary official language. It would solve a ton of issues and I’m sure the French would be okay with it.
It’s been ok so far in Canada.
Wait…
Where did they get all those torches and pitchforks so fast?
You have to be “substantially European”, which includes Cyprus, which is fully in Asia and half Turkish. Also, Greenland and to a degree Iceland aren’t geographically European.
Neither Greenland nor Iceland are in the EU.
No, but French Guiana is, and it’s in South America.
kind of
Ah shit, you’re right about Iceland. I thought it was for some reason.
Greenland like usual has no data (because WTF is it really? Independent? A territory?). Denmark definitely is, though, and Greenlanders presently get the full benefits of that.
How about the US just becomes provinces 14-64? I’ll gladly take anything else.
Nah sorry we’re not taking the red states. They can be their own Christofascist hell elsewhere.
Can I raise you the proposal of Canada and Jesusland
this looks like a dragon head with cat / dragon torso and cat legs
Indeed, I like that map.
Alaska needs to be integrated though, don’t want another Kaliningrad.
Good point, but it’s an F’n red state.
make a list of the ones y’all want we can work out a deal
So just all of new england, the pacific northwest and California.
California already goes to Denmark though
You want more convoys? Ingesting the US will give you nothing but cancer. If it’s not a city or a suburb, you’re just absorbing indoctrinated fascism. It’s pervasive.
Yea, I’ll take the top 20.
Mexico can take the bottom 30
I mean we did kinda get our asses kicked in 1812 after we started a war the president would later say we were unprepared for.
Why not? I would vote yes to allow Canada into the EU.
Well, we do share a land border with Denmark. Sooooo…. we’re practically European already!
And France (Saint Pierre) I think? Thanks CBC Gem!
Saint Pierre and Miquelon, right by Newfoundland. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Pierre_and_Miquelon
That’s a sea border, but the idea is the same.
In fact, the distance between the shores of Newfoundland and St. Pierre and Miquelon is shorter than the width of the English Channel at the Straits of Dover (25km vs 34km).
Don’t get me wrong I’m all for it but by this logic we can also include South America (French Guyana), central America (Caribbeans) all Pacific Islands (French Polynesia), Africa (too many to list), Indian subcontinent (la reunion) and Oceania (nouvelle Caledonie).
I look forward to Hawaii joining the EU :D
We share a land border on the recently divided Hans Island.oops misread the threading
Well, if Canada can take part in the Eurovision song contest, they might as well join the EU.
Fucking Celine Dion
Let’s just rename the EU to “United Earth” like in Star Trek, since Australia is practically in it already on account of being in Eurovision.
That way we don’t need to change the initials, just swap them.
Earth United would be better, no need to even change the merch.
That’s the soccer team.
They always lose on penalties to fuckin Mars, man
The refs are such hacks. If they weren’t on the take from MarsX Mining Co. those marties wouldn’t stand a chance against us.
Of course, all of these variations will still be different/inverted in french, which is already in the Union Européenne (UE) today.
Washington, Oregon, and California as Canada’s 12th province. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Ohio, and the northern 20% of Illinois and Indiana as the 13th.
I only hear Americans pitching this idea. Canada doesn’t want any of the states haha
The sane ones of us who live in those states are desperate. Soory
I’m Canadian, I don’t hate the idea.
In any case, it’s clear that the USA is less “United” these days… It’s more just … The States of America now.
There’s like a lot of shitty people even in those states. I love Washington but no thanks.
Wouldn’t need to stick exactly to the current state boundaries. Trim off the eastern parts of some of those states on the west coast. And get enough territory to fully encircle the Great Lakes, extended enough to include Minneapolis, Madison, Milwaukee, Chicago, all of Michigan, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, and parts of upstate New York.
Idk. I haven’t met enough people from any of these states to have an opinion.
Well just look at how many of them voted for trump. People in canada would have never voted for that.
Which is all part of the EU. Sign me up
Might be some geographical issues (perhaps of the ocean variety) with this proposal
Well, Ireland is separated from the rest of the continent by ocean. Canada is just a slightly bigger island, slightly further away…
There is French territory just off the coast of Newfoundland too (see Saint Pierre and Miquelon), also Denmark is right next door because of Greenland. So while still pretty far fetched, there is some precedent for European territory in North America.
Canada shares a land border with Greenland on Hans Island.
Ireland is separated from the rest of the continent by ocean.
The Celtic Sea is not an ocean.
By that logic then Vancouver Island isn’t an island because the Juan de Fuca is a strait not an ocean
They didn’t say Ireland wasn’t an island because of it… But, for the record, Canada isn’t an island anyway so…
¯\_(ツ)_/¯I wasn’t awake when I wrote that but I still think they meant to imply it doesn’t make it an island. Poor reader here I guess.
Maybe canada can be the first member of a post-European EU. I guess we’ll need a new name.
Cyprus is already the first non-European EU member.
Earth United!
Sounds like a football club that has no one to play against.
Earthed Union the EU.
White supremacist imperialist conglomerate (non-US version)?
Once again, we are forced to raise the lingering question: Are Italians White?
new caledonia and french guiana are laughing it up from the southern hemisphere
The EU 🇪🇺 is more than welcome to include Canada 🇨🇦 as the 28th member state 🤝
#canadentry
I’m not sure why I keep seeing this posted, like it’s some sort of gotcha. It doesn’t mean our other elections would have to change, just the brand new representatives to the EU.
The vote for liberal leadership used Preferential Voting where you could indicate more than one preference.
It’s not about being a “gotcha” - it’s about demonstrating a pathway to better democratic representation.
You’re right that EU membership would only require PR for European Parliament representatives initially. However, this would create several significant opportunities:
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Practical demonstration: Canadians would experience firsthand how an electoral system that ensures every vote counts actually works, rather than just hearing theoretical arguments.
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Institutional precedent: Once PR is successfully implemented for one electoral body, the argument that it’s “too complex” or “un-Canadian” becomes much harder to maintain.
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Democratic legitimacy gap: Having representatives to the EU Parliament elected through PR while our own MPs are chosen through FPTP would create an obvious legitimacy contrast that would be difficult to justify.
The Liberal leadership vote using preferential voting actually supports this point. Internal party processes already recognize the limitations of FPTP - they just don’t extend those same democratic principles to the general electorate. In fact, all parties, even the Conservatives, use superior electoral systems to FPTP.
The reality is that 76% of Canadians support electoral reform according to recent polling, but our major parties benefit from maintaining a system that systematically discards votes. Exposure to functioning PR would make the democratic deficit in our current system increasingly apparent.
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A lot of people don’t get it until they see it in action.
My union recently had a vote about increasing health benefits. “No” won in one of the categories because there were 3 options for how much to increase it by. (Yes won by 76% while the no beat the top yes 24% to 23%)
I pointed this out at the next meeting and we had a vote and struck the no vote. Later a bunch of people said thanks for pointing that out, and my reply was “no sweat, we have the same problem with our elections.”
Then everyone applauded and Einstein gave me a piece of π. Just kidding, it was more like weird looks and a couple agreements, but I like to think I brought the issue to a few people’s attention.
Because it’s a step towards proportional representation. It would expose much more of the populace to how it’s done. Hopefully getting more people used to the idea of it.
England, Wales and Scotland had EU PR elections for 15 years, but England still rejected PR at referendum.
There would be voting changes , I believe, something about EU membership requiring a certain type of voting system. Eg. Not FPP
Hungary’s system is half proportional, half FPP on steroids, but it’s just as bad as FPP since our FPP lets the winner not just take the seat, but also extra votes into the proportional part of the race.
So, no, the EU is fine with everything, the only thing is that EU citizens have to be able to vote in local elections wherever we live, regardless of citizenship. That means if you join, and I rent a place in Toronto and move in, I get a vote for the Toronto mayor on day one.
Guys guys guys, let’s be good friends with the EU, let’s even adopt some of their best policies, but honestly, they also have some baggage we don’t need.
I just want to be sovereign. How is that so hard for people to understand?
EU members are all sovereign, brexiter.
I’m Canadian.
No, I understand that. I was making a rhetorical point. You’re making the same uninformed argument that was behind brexit.
Username checks out.
Ya both those prospects seem “Colonial”
Worth it.
