This might just sound like the same old shit others voice with the recent gaza genocide, but ive hated israel for far longer. In high school i read a book called the olive grove, its based on a true story of a Palestinian family that lost every thing to the zionist movement. It follows 3 generation of the family from the first world war till after the second. It tells of the horrors they faced by the us backed terrorists taking their home and land turning away from the atrocities being committed. Its heart breaking, and when i read it in 2009 i didnt fully understand but seeing all the shit done now, i just think this cycle of hate started and can not be stopped.

Idk what else to say, i mean i could go on and on but i dont have the mental capacity to do so while drinking. I recommend others to read the book, it was a very good read when i was a high schooler and i plan to start it again as soon as i can find my copy.

Here is a link to the book if anyone is interested in reading it https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2327988.The_Olive_Grove

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    Israel is restrained by modern morality. We didn’t see Hitler coming, and we didn’t care back then. We do care now. If Israel went ahead with cattle cars and gas chambers and ovens they’d get curb stomped by the world. Israel has to tread carefully, portraying this as a war on terror instead of what it really is: mass extermination. Plus they literally cannot just mow down the whole populace, again because the world hasn’t forgotten Hitler and would shut them down. They have to boil the pot more slowly… because scrutiny has increased as have standards of human rights.

    Without all those restraints…

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      Yeh, absolutely.
      But it isnt fair to say they are worse than nazis.
      Modern nazis? Maybe.

      Id also say that the optics are that they arent attacking because of things people cant change.
      They specifically targetting hamas’s members children, they arent specifically targetting people that used to be hamas. Theoretically if hamas disbanded, the war would stop.

      At least, thats the way the optics seem.
      Whether that is what is actually happening (or would happen) is a different matter.
      Are they going about it the correct way? Doesnt seem like it.

      The nazis persecuted jewish people, their children, anybody associating with them and so on.
      There were nazi supporters in many countries before WW2, who also blamed the jewish for many issues.

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        Theoretically. Targeting anyone’s children is far out of bounds, and at 30,000 dead including people stampeding for food, it’s not just Hamas or Hamas kids they’re going after. Nor is it only Hamas that they’re starving to death en masse. It is, however, the bullshit they’re spoon feeding an uncritical world.

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      Plus they literally cannot just mow down the whole populace

      They have proof of concept from that massacre yesterday.