I know the CEO dug himself a pretty deep hole recently.
I had been meaning to switch all the services I currently use over to proton - but his remarks gave me pause.
Is it still worth considering?
Yes. If you don’t agree with the CEO, keep in mind that he is not the owner, they moved to a nonprofit structure. Proton’s CEO is not the first one saying stupid things, the same happened with Mozilla, Brave, and perhaps many other reputable groups.
Proton products are good, IMHO the layout is OK.
It’s good, but not the only one. If you don’t feel comfortable with Proton, go to Mailbox.org, Posteo, Tuta. They are smaller, with less products on their portfolio, but reputable and as good as Proton.
Tuta is a front for a western intelligence agency from what I understand. Came out in an espionage trial in Canada recently. It was in the news.
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If you are going to spend time and money migrating to another service, choosing one that seems to be headed in the wrong direction seems ill-adviced.
European-alternatives.eu seems like a good resource to find alternative services.
Personally I am waiting to see if Murena.com restores their nextcloud offering, as I am planning to move to /e/OS on my phone again and wouldn’t mind sending a little money their way. I’m not into hypersecurity though, if you have very particular needs others will have better insights. For me having it hosted in the EU is good enough.
They look pretty good; I can’t tell from their site of they offer custom domain support for email.
Eh, ACAB: All CEOs Are Bastards. Tim Apple attended Trump’s inauguration.
That’s a good point people here are getting bent out of shape a out proton CEO lapring Maga but will continue to use their iPhone or android, no questions asked 🤡
But the difference is we all have a choice of an email provider, whereas people are socially expected to have a smartphone these days and those are pretty much the two viable choices.
And at least with android devices you have the choice to move to a different OS and opt into more FOSS alternatives
At this point I’d take another look for alternatives to avoid throwing money at this particular CEO clown.
Yeah - mostly was the hope of this post to see what others you put up.
I had looked at tuta but I’m looking to be able to move my digital workspace (email, calendar, storage, docs, etc) over.
FWIW, tuta offers email, calendar and contacts. That’s a good part of it sorted out.
For storage, if you’re not up for self hosting Seafile or Nextcloud, look at https://filen.io/
Or, check out https://disroot.org/en which has email, storage, calendar and contacts.
AFAIK none of the above have office suites like you might expect coming from Google or Microsoft, but in my experience installing LibreOffice on your local machine solves that. Not everything needs to run in a browser.
It seems murena has all in looking for with the exception of supporting custom domain names (unless you self host). The workspace aspect is important to me as I do a lot of collaborative work that is much easier with shared access to a spreadsheet.
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Sure, if at this point you’re still comfortable trusting the same entity with all your cloud services as well as your phone OS (which seems to just be a hardened LineageOS) — go right ahead.
For me personally this is the selling point, as I can fund their (open source) work rather than sending money to some company that does not contribute to open source. And since everything they offer is based on FOSS, migrating to another provider is easier than for closed source competition.
That said, I get your point. It is a corporation, and it is putting several eggs on one basket.
I don’t get why people hate companies based on one person instead of the company as a whole.
Well the company’s board has a choice on who represents them and what their values are as a whole.
If the company thought that this person (CEO on this case) doesn’t represent their values effectively they can remove them.
