Big ole business just itching to get more money from people’s grief… until they’re called out in front of enough people online.

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    From the article:

    If Caitlin did want to try to get the original amount back, she’d have to email and send the death certificate to a specific email address

    Did she try - you know - doing that?

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      It says it would take 30 business days. That means it would pass the date the cruise starts, so she would not be able to get a refund at all.

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        No. That’s not how things work.
        The refund could take 30 days to go into her bank account. She would get the refund if she sent them the info like a normal person.

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        It says it could take up to 30 days. That doesn’t mean that the refund might still not have been granted even post-cruise.

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    Why can’t they just do the right thing from the get-go?

    Because like all nice things, people abuse them. Not to indicate that Carnival Cruise is some saint here, but the reason most companies don’t just default to “benefit of the doubt” is because there are a ton of very bad people out there that abuse any inch a company will give them.

    My step mother was one of those entitled ass people who thought the world owed her. One day she put on some act about a late fee and the person on the other side of the desk was saying “oh I’m sure there’s something we can swing…” And having enough of her shit, I was basically, “Do not give this lady a wavier on that late fee, everything she just said is some massive warping of the actual truth!”

    Maybe it’s because of her, but I find it difficult to ding companies who don’t default to “benefit of the doubt”. I’m glad the lady got it sorted out. But shoot, I’ve got massive distrust of folks in general and my step-mother is a lot of the blame for that. Side note, that’s likely unhealthy kind of stuff that I should one day sort out.

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      If you’re a customer who is usually in good standing, when you call and ask for late fees to be waived, they usually are.

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    She should bring a lawsuit against Carnival cruiselines and tell them to go fuck themselves for being such filthy disgusting assholes.

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    11 months ago

    Cruses have always been no cancelations for any reason. Which is why cruise forums are full of debate on what instance is best, with few saying don’t get it.

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    I mean the mother signed a contract? there’s a “classic” case that if an old person ordered a stair lift and then died before construction started the heirs will still have to pay for that.

    It’s just that you inherit not just the values but also the obligations as shitty as it might be

    and that she apparently didn’t even send them the death-certificate before going to the media makes this just drip from big Karen-energy…

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      the heirs will still have to pay for that.

      I don’t think you can sign your children into a contract of any kind. If there’s money they’re inheriting the estate would have to pay contracts before the heirs in some cases but if there’s no money to be had I don’t think the kids are on the hook for anything.

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        At least it’s that way in Germany

        My father died 2 years ago and my sister and I had to pay for construction at the house he signed off a month before his death even though we didn’t want that and both our lawyers said there’s no way to get out of that unless you deny the whole inheritance

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          You’re talking about inheritance though. Inheritance also works likes that in the US as well. But inheritance is a whole different can of worms legally than what is being talked about in the article and even then what debt does and doesn’t get passed on is fuzzy. Sorry about your loss though

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    I doubt she can afford it but if so, she could try to bring a suit against Carnival Cruise lines. They hate negative publicity. Or talk to an AP reporter, maybe they could do a story about it. She could also start a GoFundMe to cover the cost of cancellation but I do hope Carnival Cruise gets a lot of flack for being so inflexible and insensitive and money hungry. Another example of how we get screwed because a large corporation with tons of money is unwilling to bend the rules a bit and must follow every word of their “you have to pay us this” script to the letter, no matter who suffers.

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      Why? All she needs to do is send them a copy of the death certificate. That’s how it works, they’re not asking for anything out of the ordinary. That’s simply what you do when someone passes away.

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        Carnival Cruise lines has a net worth upward of $19 billion. I truly believe that it won’t bankrupt them to bend the rules and cancel this fare once and for all without causing this undue hardship during this woman’s period of grieving. Yes she can just send a death certificate, but if I were her there’s be a big “FUCK YOU” note attached. And they could bill me (without success) for the remainder of my life as far as that goes.

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          No one has to bend any rules. Providing proof of death is an extremely basic process when someone passes away. Net worth, bankruptcy… None of that has any bearing at all on this situation.

          You’re being extremely over dramatic for no reason.

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            Obviously you are employed by Carnival and have to follow your pre coded script. But I’m right and no amount of assholery from you can change that fact.

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              I have never worked for Carnival of all places lol I just have common sense.

              Look, if you think begging for everything is the way to go through life, have at it. But you don’t need to do that in this situation. It’s far easier to just send them the info and have it taken care of.

              You do you, Karen. Good luck out there.

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                Actually you’re just a filthy degenerate father fucking piece of sick filth. So your feedback holds no interest for me. Go be an asshole to people who give a damn.