That said, this probably isn’t true if someone is transitioning from Photoshop, which is probably the context of this discussion. I have seen people who start with Gimp without knowing Photoshop and they got into it fairly quick.
Using Gimp and expecting the same logic and structure as Photoshop will indeed lead to initial difficulties.
I don’t want to get into a war here. Am sure there’s things more complicated in Gimp than PS, but also vice versa.
Either way, I know a number of people who do stunning work with Gimp in little time.
I often find this is the biggest obstacle with moving people to FOSS solutions. People want an alternative to Photoshop, so you show them Gimp, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Photoshop to Gimp. People want an alternative to Windows, so you show them Linux, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Windows to Linux. And then when it doesn’t work the same way, then obviously that is a deficiency of the alternative, and not simply them having to learn a new way of doing things.
Sadly it hasn’t had a new release in 2 years. It will probably go the way of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop, which aimed to do the same before it was discontinued
Pixelmator, Sketch and Affinity apps on MacOS has been my replacement for pirated Adobe products for a long time now. Pixelmator is like $30 one time and really fast with non destructive color correction and Mac shortcuts. None of the terrible GIMP UI.
It’s sad to say but Photoshop smokes basically all of its competitors except the ones that get into a specificic niche, but even then stuff like illustrator and lightroom compete well in that marketplace.
Photoshop may not be FOSS but it may as well be considered free due to the rampant piracy. I frequently recommend it forgetting it’s a subscription based Ad*be made product.
Hell yeah I should have said that really. My friend has an embroidery machine and we use inkstitch for inkscape to do that.
I don’t really move between lightroom, inkscape and Photoshop often but I do move between premier pro, after effects and audition often enough via the way they embed into eachother, and I presume there is similar functionality between those. This helps cement me using something like audition over audacity just because I’m trained on premier pro and don’t wanna retrain on DaVinci Resolve.
Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer finally broke my pirated Photoshop/Illustrator addiction. They are affordable seriously good alternatives with a classic ‘pay once for a major release’ model instead of a subscription. I’m a fairly advanced user and there was nothing I miss from the Adobe products, although real professionals may have more complex needs.
Serif’s Affinity suite isn’t free, but the UI is much more approachable than GIMP’s. The maintainers also aren’t being weirdly defensive about a name that’s a pun of a slur or sex thing.
Affinity is hella cheap, all things considered. And once you authenticate your installed software, you never have to be online again to use it.
It’s so nice, I’m definitely gonna buy it some day, unless GIMP and Scribus somehow manage to impress me until then. Inkscape is already great, but those two…
Also because companies that students will apply to work for after graduation look for proficiency in said products because they’re what the vast majority of the industry uses.
If you manage to go through college studying digital media without touching an adobe product you are going to have a hard time finding a job when that’s reflected on your resume.
Adobe doesn’t deserve that exclusivity considering how shit some of their products have gotten and their trash subscription model but that’s the reality.
Adobe used to not give a shit about piracy for personal use, and a reasoni t was so easy to pirate. They knew a lot of those kids making memes would grow up to be either paying customers or work for someone that is.
Pretty steep, it’s software aimed at professionals, and it shows. There are a few tutorials from Black Magic design where you can download the source media and follow along, which I found very useful.
I found you really need to spend a few evenings learning the software before you actually edit anything.
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or photo editing, in which case GIMP is better, and it’s FOSS
GIMPs UI is steaming hot pile of shit unfortunately. It’s very powerful yes, but the UI is really hard to figure out.
gtk3 is coming 👀
I can’t wait for that steaming pile of hot UI garbage to be on the hottest of GUI toolkits that came out in 2011
GTK 3 ?? They’ve sure taken their sweet time with it
hasn’t it been coming for like a million years
Can’t say I agree.
That said, this probably isn’t true if someone is transitioning from Photoshop, which is probably the context of this discussion. I have seen people who start with Gimp without knowing Photoshop and they got into it fairly quick.
Using Gimp and expecting the same logic and structure as Photoshop will indeed lead to initial difficulties.
I don’t want to get into a war here. Am sure there’s things more complicated in Gimp than PS, but also vice versa.
Either way, I know a number of people who do stunning work with Gimp in little time.
I often find this is the biggest obstacle with moving people to FOSS solutions. People want an alternative to Photoshop, so you show them Gimp, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Photoshop to Gimp. People want an alternative to Windows, so you show them Linux, and they immediately get frustrated because they try to apply the logic and design philosophies of Windows to Linux. And then when it doesn’t work the same way, then obviously that is a deficiency of the alternative, and not simply them having to learn a new way of doing things.
There’s a project by Diolinux called PhotoGimp, which aims to make Gimp look like Photoshop. It also changes all the keybinds to match those of PS.
Sadly it hasn’t had a new release in 2 years. It will probably go the way of https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIMPshop, which aimed to do the same before it was discontinued
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Read the comment I responded to. They are talking about this project, which I commented about, and has not had a release in 2 years
https://github.com/Diolinux/PhotoGIMP
Ah, yes.
Sorry. I deleted my comment. Misread and thought this was about Gimp itself.
Oh wow, I never noticed, and it’s not even been two years since I’ve started using it. Whoops.
Well then, I’m gonna go try and figure out how to run Affinity in Wine.
Gimp 3.0 should help afiak
fortunately there’s some great people making awesome tutorials!
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GIMP is somehow worse than Photoshop and I have no idea why. Inkscape and paint.net exist. Hell Corel paint shop exists.
Pixelmator, Sketch and Affinity apps on MacOS has been my replacement for pirated Adobe products for a long time now. Pixelmator is like $30 one time and really fast with non destructive color correction and Mac shortcuts. None of the terrible GIMP UI.
It’s sad to say but Photoshop smokes basically all of its competitors except the ones that get into a specificic niche, but even then stuff like illustrator and lightroom compete well in that marketplace.
Photoshop may not be FOSS but it may as well be considered free due to the rampant piracy. I frequently recommend it forgetting it’s a subscription based Ad*be made product.
illustrator doesn’t. Inkscape rocks
Hell yeah I should have said that really. My friend has an embroidery machine and we use inkstitch for inkscape to do that.
I don’t really move between lightroom, inkscape and Photoshop often but I do move between premier pro, after effects and audition often enough via the way they embed into eachother, and I presume there is similar functionality between those. This helps cement me using something like audition over audacity just because I’m trained on premier pro and don’t wanna retrain on DaVinci Resolve.
Affinity Photo and Affinity Designer finally broke my pirated Photoshop/Illustrator addiction. They are affordable seriously good alternatives with a classic ‘pay once for a major release’ model instead of a subscription. I’m a fairly advanced user and there was nothing I miss from the Adobe products, although real professionals may have more complex needs.
Also no Linux version. ☹️
Why would you recommend GIMP when Krita exists
GIMP = Image Editing
Krita = Drawing and Painting
+1 for Krita as the paining mvp
This plugin lets you paint with a local stable diffusion . Its better then firefly and free.
https://github.com/Acly/krita-ai-diffusion
didn’t know of it. I’ll check it out
Serif’s Affinity suite isn’t free, but the UI is much more approachable than GIMP’s. The maintainers also aren’t being weirdly defensive about a name that’s a pun of a slur or sex thing.
Affinity is hella cheap, all things considered. And once you authenticate your installed software, you never have to be online again to use it.
It’s so nice, I’m definitely gonna buy it some day, unless GIMP and Scribus somehow manage to impress me until then. Inkscape is already great, but those two…
I only wish it had a Linux port
I’d be fine as long as it runs in Wine, honestly
As someone with both installed, I disagree. Photoshop is the industry standard for a reason.
I’ll use GIMP when I’m doing editing for my job that doesn’t pay for an Adobe license, but otherwise I’ll use Photoshop every time.
Is it though?
damn what kind of fancy school anon go to where they can afford Photoshop for the students? our school could only afford desktops from 2 decades ago
a lotta companies provide free licenses for educational purposes to indoctrinate students into using the products after school
Also because companies that students will apply to work for after graduation look for proficiency in said products because they’re what the vast majority of the industry uses.
If you manage to go through college studying digital media without touching an adobe product you are going to have a hard time finding a job when that’s reflected on your resume.
Adobe doesn’t deserve that exclusivity considering how shit some of their products have gotten and their trash subscription model but that’s the reality.
Adobe used to not give a shit about piracy for personal use, and a reasoni t was so easy to pirate. They knew a lot of those kids making memes would grow up to be either paying customers or work for someone that is.
or drawing. in which Krita is stellar
How bad is the learning curve? I’ve been cobbling stuff together with Openshot.
Pretty steep, it’s software aimed at professionals, and it shows. There are a few tutorials from Black Magic design where you can download the source media and follow along, which I found very useful.
I found you really need to spend a few evenings learning the software before you actually edit anything.
Thanks, I’ll check out that tutorial.
The curve is pretty fun at least. And the free version comes with a lot
I use both. You can set up Davinci Resolve so it uses the same key bindings as Premiere Pro
Edit: I was too quick. You didn’t mention Premiere Pro at all. Sorry