Trump AND AOC? What an odd mix.
People are dumb as shit.
or maybe you just have naive comprehension of how people work
“I feel you are both outsiders compared to the rest of DC, and less ‘establishment’,” said one. Another, “both of you push boundaries and force growth”. And: “It’s real simple … Trump and you care for the working class.”
“You are focused on the real issues people care about. Similar to Trump populism in some ways,” said a fourth. Lastly, a respondent said: “You signaled change. Trump signified change. I’ve said lately, Trump sounds more like you.”
Utterly brilliant. Complete geniuses with a firm grasp on current politics. I see why you count these as intellectual kin.
Trump … care[s] for the working class.
Fucking idiot.
Not you, pug.
If Democrats can’t learn the lesson here they’re going to keep failing.
These are working class people who want their everyday cost of living needs addressed. They want change. No Trump isn’t going to help them but he says he will. “Trump will fix it!”
If Trump says mass deportations will fix their problems they’re going with that option.
Democrats need to actually do the work and fix their concerns the correct way, by taxing the shit out of or locking up billionaires for a start.
Democrats saying nothing will fundamentally change is not reaching these people, and just calling them dumb and discarding them isn’t a winning strategy.
and just calling them dumb and discarding them isn’t a winning strategy.
But that seems to be the SOP for Lemmy users, any criticism of the DNC, Harris, or Biden is met with “bUt TrUmP fAsCiSm,” or some variation of you being a racist or fascist or whatever.
AOC sat down with her voters and asked them why they voted for her and Trump, and they gave her their honest answers.
And y’all (not you, the people you’re responding to and the majority of Lemmy) immediately insult them, their intelligence, and their understanding of the world because y’all know better then them.
There were plenty of articles showing despite a good economy, Americans felt more strapped for cash and felt like they were doing worse than four years ago. That’s their lived reality, and the DNC just kept doubling down on “economy good, soft landing,” and then threw out the $15/hr minimum wage from a decade ago as if it would mean anything to most Americans (my state already has a minimum wage of just under $16/hr, and it’s $8/hr short of what our own university said someone would need to afford a one bedroom apartment). So no working class person would have benefitted from that in my state, but the DNC and liberals act like we should be gobbling their nuts because they were so progressive for even briefly mentioning it.
I said right after the election (and was repeatedly attacked and downvoted for it) that the American people want change. And if it’s not going to be progress, they’ll roll the dice on regress. But something has to change, and for better or worse, Trump promises that while the DNC can barely be bothered to maintain the status quo.
People are fucking stupid, but to the previous point that doesn’t mean they can just be ignored. Their concerns are real and need to be addressed, they’re just gullible morons for believing the first snake oil salesman that comes along promising to solve all their problems.
The DNC fucked up and has been fucking up consistently for decades now by ignoring lower and middle class Americans to focus solely on the upper class. Talks of the stock market doing well and the GDP being good means fuck all when that’s all built on the backs of some of the most extreme income inequality and poverty in the history of the US. As the middle class eroded and wealth increasingly is concentrated in fewer and fewer hands it becomes critical to appeal not to the rich but to the poor who overwhelmingly outnumber them. Failure to do so has had the entirely predictable result that elections become impossible to win.
The GOP is fully aware of this, the big difference is they’re more than happy to peddle comforting lies to an increasingly ignorant and stupid populace, due in no small part to Republicans decades of attacking and destroying public education. If the DNC or any other non-GOP party ever wants to hold power again they need to convince the poor to vote for them, one way or another.
I have made similar comparisons before.
I want an exciting government as much as I want an exciting nuclear powerplant.
To make an analogy out of your statement, in this scenario the nuclear powerplant is in the middle of melting down and one party ran on a platform of “Your right, that plant is a problem, but don’t worry we’ll fix it by removing all the control rods” while the other parties platform was “We think all the readings look fine, we’re not going to change anything, the control rods are just fine where they are”. Neither one is actually solving the problem, and one is actively making it worse while claiming the opposite. Everyone is rightfully concerned and wanted something done, and enough morons believed the lies to hand them the win.
