Senior Democrats in US cities are preparing to defend their communities in the event ofĀ Donald TrumpāsĀ return to the White House after the former president has repeated threats that he would use presidential powers to seize control of major urban centers.
Trump has proposed deploying the military inside major cities largely run byĀ DemocratsĀ to deal with protesters or to crush criminal gangs. He has threatened to dispatch large numbers of federal immigration agents to carry out mass deportations of undocumented people in so-called āsanctuaryā cities.
He also aims to obliterate the progressive criminal justice policies of left-leaning prosecutors.
āIn cities where there has been a complete breakdown of law and order ā¦ I will not hesitate to send in federal assets including the national guard until safety is restored,ā Trump says in the campaign platform for his bid to become the 47th US president,Ā Agenda47.
TrumpĀ provoked uproarĀ earlier this week when he called for US armed forces to be deployed against his political rivals ā āthe enemy withinā ā on election day next month. But his plans to use national guard troops and military personnel as a means to attack those he sees as his opponents go much wider than that, spanning entire cities with Democratic leadership.
They arenāt anti 2a. Theyāre anti extremist interpretation.
If they had the ability to repeal the 2nd, they would. The end goal is alway complete removal. Letās stop acting like its not.
They say with zero evidence.
I never understood why itās something that Dems want to hide. There is a pretty damn large portion that want to repeal the 2nd.
https://time.com/5216782/john-paul-stevens-repeal-second-amendment/
https://newrepublic.com/article/166628/democrats-repeal-second-amendment-guns
https://www.congress.gov/bill/103rd-congress/house-joint-resolution/81
https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/opinions/gun-reform-second-amendment-repeal-uvalde-shooting-press/index.html
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/repeal-second-amendment-gun-control/
https://www.amazon.com/Repeal-Second-Amendment-Safer-America/dp/1250244404
https://www.atf.gov/rules-and-regulations/national-firearms-act
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a19608552/major-owens-second-amendment-repeal/
https://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2019/bills/SCR42_.pdf
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/columnist/2022/07/11/jayland-walker-highland-park-uvalde-second-amendment/7809531001/?gnt-cfr=1&gca-cat=p
Because the poll has somehow vanishedā¦
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/one-in-five-americans-wants-the-second-amendment-to-be-repealed-national-survey-finds/
So can we stop pretending that support to repeal and ban all guns isnāt something that is the end goal?
Lmao, throwing the kitchen sink at us and hoping we wonāt check the details?
Retired Supreme Court Judge
Opinion article saying Democrats should, by a staff writer
A House Bill from 20 years ago with no co-sponsors, that didnāt even make it out of committee.
A Podcasterās opinion article
Opinion article saying Democrats should, by a staff writer
College Professor wrote a book
The law saying you canāt have fully automatic weapons, (LMFAO, really? you think thatās a repeal of the second?)
An article about the the representative from number 3, who again, acted alone, admitted he acted without party support, and admitted it was little more than a political stunt. Thank you for giving us the first real evidence that Democrats are not trying to ban guns or repeal the second.
Some state legislators asking for a clarifying amendment. Which, (checks notes), yup completely ignored by the party.
A paywalled opinion piece by a staff writer.
Your Seattle Times article puts those numbers in the correct light, because 39 percent isnāt a majority or anywhere near enough to force action on the national level.
So no. The answer is no. Because despite using eleven sources you could not find any evidence the democrats are actually trying to ban all guns. Even if we repealed the second amendment it wouldnāt ban all guns, it would just open the opportunity to regulate them.
I will however say that every time the GOP offers thoughts and prayers over the bodies of children, that number grows and once it reaches a tipping point a ban will be inevitable and there will be no glorious civil war because support will just be that high. If the GOP backed off for even a second and allowed red flag laws and universal background check, and had their state AGs prosecute those laws then there would be less shit for law abiding gun owners to wade through. Which is why 75 percent of Americans support Universal Background Check and Gun Licensing. The country is still willing to work with you, that may not be true in a another decade with a hundred more high profile mass casualty events at schools.
? You asked for sources, I provided them and you complainā¦way to start out.
A democrat appointed judge. Guess he doesnāt count some how.
Ah yea another Democrat that doesnāt countā¦got it.
Soā¦a bill from a Democratā¦but doesnāt countā¦this is going to be a trend with you isnāt it?
Another Democrat that doesnāt countā¦
Yep definitely a trendā¦
A democrat got itā¦ doesnāt count
I forgot how death by 1000 cuts doesnāt countā¦you sound like a anti-abortion mouth piece saying abortion can still be had in other states, but itās fine to be banned in red ones.
Sooo yepā¦ doesnāt count because theyāre not true Democrats? I hear this a lot from Republicans when they try and refute pointsā¦
Soā¦(Checks notes) Not a real Democratā¦got it.
Another not real democratā¦man you really think very few people are Democrats.
So 39% arenāt real Democrats is what youāre saying?
Got it no real Democratsā¦
Why are we talking about the shit stains in the GOP?
You do realize a good chunk of the GOP supports ERPOs right? But again why are we talking about the GOP? That wasnāt your question.
Weāve had 15 mass shootings in schools since Columbineā¦ weāre going to need to have way more each year to get to 100 in under a decade. UBC requires a registery, but most people are to stupid to know thisā¦and gun licensing is a joke.
None of that is going to stop or even dent gun deaths in this country.
If I have to acknowledge everyone who self identifies as a democrat then you have to acknowledge the Republicans and pro 2A groups are terrorists who should be hunted down and renditioned. After all, weāre counting what every single person who self identifies with the group says right? Not their actual platform or actions?
Lol wait wait youāre suggesting that people who own guns and are pro2a are terrorists? Lol the fuck is wrong with you.
Lol you literally cannot fathom that there is a good chunk of the Democratic party that would ban all guns if they had the chance lol
PS suggesting that the repubs are pro2a is hilarious.
Oh no not at all, just that there are some. If I have to own a minority position, so do you.
Or we could converse in good faith and look at what the policy directions actually are.
Letās stop following GOP propaganda by pretending that it is.
https://lemmy.world/comment/12950998
Letās stop acting like the person youāre discussing firearms with is a gop supporterā¦yea?
None of my sources are gop driven linksā¦soā¦have fun.
39% support among Democrats. Not all Democrats, not a plurality, and not even a majority.
Two of those fucking links went to the same stupid bill from 1994 that a handful of people put forward as an alternative to the assault weapons ban, and one of them is goddamn sticker on Amazon. You really are grasping at straws here.
I can understand the appeal for repealing the 2nd amendment, since a lot of people consider it too vague to have any real meaning, and the conservative loaded SC has determined that āwell regulated militiaā extends to groups of racist hilljacks in a pickup shooting unarmed black men.
That being said thoughā¦ 39% of Dems oppose it, which means that the Democratic party as a whole is 61% in favor of keeping it.
So, are you gonna take the L and delete your comment, or are you gonna post another wall of bullshit that you didnāt even bother to read before calling it gospel and spreading it over the fediverse?
So those %39 arenāt really Democrats? Got itā¦
Lol no theyāre not, and the Amazon link is for a book from a Democratā¦but okā¦
Yea noā¦ itās only people who are antigun that find it vagueā¦ itās got commas and states two things. The people should be able to bear arms and that the militia should existā¦ because at that time both sides considered a standing army to be a no goā¦so history tells us itās not vagueā¦ just antigun groups do.
Lolā¦yea cause 39% is so little.
You mean are you going to keep whining because you donāt know history and think dems are pro2a?
Strawman argument. My counter-point as a whole was not that everyone wants to keep the 2nd Amendment, but that Democrats do not want to repeal the 2nd amendment. It has less than 50% support in the party. To further express why you are attacking a strawmanā¦
So those %8 arenāt really Republicans? Got itā¦
I think the only people who find it straight-forward believe that any number of mass shootings, school shootings and random shootings is acceptable, as long as there are no more restrictions of any kind on their ability to purchase, sell, and use any weapon.
Also, most constitutional law scholars who had fucking doctorates in this shit find it vague.
Still <50%ā¦ Lol?
Are you acting like you do know the history of 2A movents in the US? Donāt make me laugh.
Anymore bullshit opinions pieces and Amazon links you want to spam here as āevidenceā?
Thatās not what a strawman argument is, the original user stated that no dems want to ban the 2nd, I have clearly provided sources that state this is bullshit.
This is a strawman, as itās not part of the original argument.
Heyā¦ another strawmanā¦
Yea no they donāt, unless theyāre antigun, then it magically becomes vague.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
Here there is an entire section dor scholarly comments.
Lol yea cause 1/3rd is a tiny amountā¦also straw man.
Lol sure thing, I donāt know what Iām talking about.
Ah left leaning sources that disagree with you are now ā¦bullshitā¦damn
Woooo boy. I really donāt need to say anything here. Your previous comment pretty much cements you as a conservative troll, and anyone that makes it this far down is clearly going to see it.
If we ever have the ability to repeal the 2A then the GOP is already in shambles and weāll have the opportunity to make all kinds of other reforms that makes it impossible for them to recover.