Why is there so much fearmongering around 4chan? Everyone that doesn’t use it seems to think of it as an anomaly; when it is nothing but a somewhat “radical” (that too only some boards) social site. Also banning & doing something along those lines to the users of 4chan is the shittiest idea of all time.
Because it and 8chan are racist shitholes that have produced numerous mass murderers, most notably the Christchurch murderer that killed 51 people at a mosque.
I don’t think such sites “produce” mass murderers; they certainly contribute to the accleeration of their extremity–I don’t deny that–but no site can “produce” mass murderers, there has to be some preeminent malignity present in the person.
It’s interesting that your more nuanced take is barely breaking even compared to the “video games cause violence” type inflammatory take you replied to.
We all came here to make fun of the dumb twitter post and then comments with the same energy are being applauded.
I think you’re arguing for a distinction without a difference. If the seed of malignancy would not have grown without finding fertile soil, how can you prove it existed? Why is it more fitting to blame this metaphysical and unknowable thing rather than these very real cesspits?
I don’t think the disposition to evil needs a “fertile soil”. For instance, there are evil men in convents–and in quite a high degree too–that harm others in order to break the monotonicity of their life; now, would you say a convent is a “fertile soil” for growth of evil–should be the contrary. The artificial spite is a product of, as I’ve mentioned, a boring and monotonous life, and it so happens the easiest mode available to break this is harm towards others.
In case of natural malignity, the influence on the actions lies not in something mundane as boredom but other natural causes–be it from parental abuse, &c. but I concur that I’ve no scientific knowledge in this field. And, thus I believe that the ones that hold malignity through nature (in contrast with the artificial one) are able to create an environment that accomplishes, or perhaps, breaks, as I’ve said above, their disorder’s whims. And the chans happen to be a pre-existing place with like minded people that nurture each other’s “seeds”, but even in the lack of these imaginary soils, the seeds will grow without any problem.
Oof I used to be a regular on r9k and now I cringe so hard about it. Thank God it was anonymous.
I was going through a tough time and the people there accepted me and engaged with my posts. In hindsight I think people just connected with my anger, but the venting was helpful.
At some point a friend saw my laptop and said “holy shit you’re asking 4chan for advice, hahaha what the fuck is wrong with you” and she laughed until she was wheezing, and I never went back on again.
The /tg/ board was the source of some of the greatest tabletop RPG content I ever saw in the 2010s, really great discussions and whole homebrew systems born out of threads that just pitch cool ideas. Of course it came with the same veneer of snark and shock comments as the rest of 4chan but that was on every site in the 2010s. I haven’t been back there in a long while so I can’t speak to it these days.
I still remember that story about how someone’s boyfriend was radicalized by 4chan and they noticed by “checking his 4chan account” and I think talked about PMs lol
People are dumbass normies who fear anyone slightly different than the mould. You don’t have facebook and instagram? Fucking weird. You don’t know the latest influencer trend? Outcast. You think capitalism is evil and the normalcy is harmful to society? Terrorist.
Why is there so much fearmongering around 4chan? Everyone that doesn’t use it seems to think of it as an anomaly; when it is nothing but a somewhat “radical” (that too only some boards) social site. Also banning & doing something along those lines to the users of 4chan is the shittiest idea of all time.
Because it and 8chan are racist shitholes that have produced numerous mass murderers, most notably the Christchurch murderer that killed 51 people at a mosque.
I don’t think such sites “produce” mass murderers; they certainly contribute to the accleeration of their extremity–I don’t deny that–but no site can “produce” mass murderers, there has to be some preeminent malignity present in the person.
It’s interesting that your more nuanced take is barely breaking even compared to the “video games cause violence” type inflammatory take you replied to.
We all came here to make fun of the dumb twitter post and then comments with the same energy are being applauded.
I think you’re arguing for a distinction without a difference. If the seed of malignancy would not have grown without finding fertile soil, how can you prove it existed? Why is it more fitting to blame this metaphysical and unknowable thing rather than these very real cesspits?
I don’t think the disposition to evil needs a “fertile soil”. For instance, there are evil men in convents–and in quite a high degree too–that harm others in order to break the monotonicity of their life; now, would you say a convent is a “fertile soil” for growth of evil–should be the contrary. The artificial spite is a product of, as I’ve mentioned, a boring and monotonous life, and it so happens the easiest mode available to break this is harm towards others.
In case of natural malignity, the influence on the actions lies not in something mundane as boredom but other natural causes–be it from parental abuse, &c. but I concur that I’ve no scientific knowledge in this field. And, thus I believe that the ones that hold malignity through nature (in contrast with the artificial one) are able to create an environment that accomplishes, or perhaps, breaks, as I’ve said above, their disorder’s whims. And the chans happen to be a pre-existing place with like minded people that nurture each other’s “seeds”, but even in the lack of these imaginary soils, the seeds will grow without any problem.
Some of the boards are legit helpful and good too. You can stay away from /r9k/ or /b/ or /pol/ and be fine.
Oof I used to be a regular on r9k and now I cringe so hard about it. Thank God it was anonymous.
I was going through a tough time and the people there accepted me and engaged with my posts. In hindsight I think people just connected with my anger, but the venting was helpful.
At some point a friend saw my laptop and said “holy shit you’re asking 4chan for advice, hahaha what the fuck is wrong with you” and she laughed until she was wheezing, and I never went back on again.
Best way to browse those boards is to go to r/newgreentexts
Is there a Lemmy equivalent?
!greentext@lemmy.ml is fun but infrequently updated.
Not really. The thing is that that subreddit bullies reposters and people who are lazy in writing a title out, so the submissions are higher effort.
The /tg/ board was the source of some of the greatest tabletop RPG content I ever saw in the 2010s, really great discussions and whole homebrew systems born out of threads that just pitch cool ideas. Of course it came with the same veneer of snark and shock comments as the rest of 4chan but that was on every site in the 2010s. I haven’t been back there in a long while so I can’t speak to it these days.
/tg/ is the same as it always was. That type of nerd never changes much. I still go there on occasion to see what’s up in indie RPG and wargames.
/b/ is mostly porn and incest fantasies, which isn’t very good, but nothing compared to /pol/.
I still remember that story about how someone’s boyfriend was radicalized by 4chan and they noticed by “checking his 4chan account” and I think talked about PMs lol
There isn’t any fear mongering. For every innocuous greentext, there’s 10 wildly racist or antisocial posts.
People are dumbass normies who fear anyone slightly different than the mould. You don’t have facebook and instagram? Fucking weird. You don’t know the latest influencer trend? Outcast. You think capitalism is evil and the normalcy is harmful to society? Terrorist.
Thinking capitalism is evil is the absolute norm here.
You just described a lot of Reddit and most Lemmings.
That’s a pretty broad brush you’re painting with.
I don’t have Facebook or Instagram or know influencers, but I’m not suffering any ill effects. I’m also an adult though. Maybe it’s harder for youth.
Except that this is an accepted mainstream opinion now