• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    Yep. Absolutely nothing wrong with celebrating brutal dictators while constantly shouting down other democratic world leaders. No pattern could possibly be made of that. No informed characteristics about a person who does so could possibly be derived. No expectations of how the world might change shape if they were allowed to be in the same political space as those people. NOPE.

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    “I think that President Trump gets along with world leaders,” Vance responded. “And there’s nothing wrong with him complimenting them as people, if it makes him more effective diplomatically.

    So you’re saying there is something wrong with it?

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      Also, Trump indiscriminately worsened international relations for the US for years, if not decades. While he simped for every dictator he was made aware of, he simultaneously dismissed, insulted, or tried to needlessly strong arm its allies. I’d argue he was a worse diplomat for the country than GW, and that’s a low fucking bar.

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        As a European, way worse than GW. GW was bad, and there was a lot of shit going around with him trying to drag NATO into unjust wars of aggression, Trump basically made NATO seriously prepare for a future where the US is not a member.

        This means a lot of things, from simple things like NATO might not buy the next American fighter jet that might tie them to an unstable country with military logistics, to more complicated and far-reaching ones like Europe not giving a flying fuck about US-China relationships and potentially being a neutral/independent party on that front.

        If the US can’t recover - and I’m not saying it can’t, the 2016 Trump presidency might be referred to by historians as the point where the US jumped the shark on being the sole superpower on Earth. Wonder why tankies are shilling for Trump.

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        On the other hand, if his goal was to sabotage the United States on purpose, he did a magnificent fucking job of it.

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        Before Biden was elected, he wouldn’t be able to pass any meaningful legislation in the first 2 years, because his primary focus would be to rebuild this country’s reputation on the world stage… because of what the previous guy did.

        Of course the guy I was talking to is a conspiracy shouting boot licking fox-news-parrot who complains endlessly that his guns will be taken away

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    Donald could blow up a school bus full of kittens and puppies and Vance would still defend him. He’s exactly the empty-suit no principles politician the right wing likes to pretend they’re against.

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      Trump: Why should I pick you, Vance? Would you be prepared to say absolutely anything, true or not, to win?

      Vance: Of course! Anything!

      Trump: Wait, was that a lie?

      Vance: Even if it was, wouldn’t it just show that I am prepared to lie to win?

      Trump: I love this guy. He gets me.

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      He trats the president of North Korea better than the president of the United States, his own country. Far better.

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    You know, we throw the weird term around a lot right now because it’s useful and they are weird but this in particular… That is a weird f****** hill to die on.

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      He kinda has to. No political career for him after this if Trump doesn’t win. Best he’ll be able to do is some appearances, but he’ll fade fast. It was a high risk high reward gamble to be Trump’s running mate. Hopefully won’t pay off for him.

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    And there’s nothing wrong with him complimenting them as people, if it makes him more effective diplomatically.

    That’s the least eye rolling.
    Reading the rest detached my retina.

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    He’s using you, kid. He’s got your prick in his back pocket

    Wall Street - Ketchup Never Leaks

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      Yeah pretty weird thing to say, that. Don’t reckon too many folks would agree with him on that one tbh