Not aping bourgeois capitalist oligarchy would be a good start. As for details, I believe there’s a vast amount of socialist writing and thought that doesn’t involve “Let’s make a fascist capitalist state and it’ll totally give power to the proletariat, eventually, somehow” as one of its core tenets.
Ok I didn’t ask how not to do it. How would one go about this in concrete terms, guided by the plethora of attempts in the past? How do you avoid it getting crushed by the united bourgeoisie of other countries?
Yugoslavia style market socialism. Corporations as workers coops. Hell, even central planning would be more socialist than “We’re literally just running a capitalist crony state”. But it seems that fascism is the only acceptable path to socialism according to many Very Interested Online Leftists.
You don’t have the answers because you don’t actually care about “empowering the proletariat” beyond using the proletariat as a rhetorical device to beat up a strawman. Plenty of time to post how China’s doing it wrong, no time to do something constructive
How would you empower the proletariat?
Not aping bourgeois capitalist oligarchy would be a good start. As for details, I believe there’s a vast amount of socialist writing and thought that doesn’t involve “Let’s make a fascist capitalist state and it’ll totally give power to the proletariat, eventually, somehow” as one of its core tenets.
Ok I didn’t ask how not to do it. How would one go about this in concrete terms, guided by the plethora of attempts in the past? How do you avoid it getting crushed by the united bourgeoisie of other countries?
Yugoslavia style market socialism. Corporations as workers coops. Hell, even central planning would be more socialist than “We’re literally just running a capitalist crony state”. But it seems that fascism is the only acceptable path to socialism according to many Very Interested Online Leftists.
anarcho-syndicalism with a flavour of market-socialism sounds good too me.
Better question. How does giving China and Russia more power empower the proletariat?
Who said that?
I don’t have
anall the answers, so I guess I shouldn’t criticize anything China does. Or the United States or anyone else!/s
Edit: typo
You don’t have the answers because you don’t actually care about “empowering the proletariat” beyond using the proletariat as a rhetorical device to beat up a strawman. Plenty of time to post how China’s doing it wrong, no time to do something constructive
The fuck does this even mean?
Oh bother