• breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    typical america moment

    you get ID’d at the library.

    Books? We must protect the children!

    Guns? Oh, no take the children before my guns!

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      The fact that the stupidity is intentional and the desired result is the rub. Stupid, uneducated people are less likely to think critically and more likely to accept and support whatever bullshit the political party behind all this shit Republicans spew out.

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    Yeah. Keep them kids out of the library. They should be at home on the internet where they will only be exposed to wholesome content.

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    This post is pretty out of context. https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/04/10/idaho-libraries-must-move-materials-deemed-harmful-to-children-or-face-lawsuits-under-new-law/

    Some libraries are doing things like this as a form of protest. The law doesn’t require such a stringent process as this, but that’s irrelevant. What’s relevant is the law is infringing on freedom of speech by regulating libraries’ content.

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      I don’t see how the law doesn’t require libraries to go 18+ to be free of liability.

      The language in this law is extremely broad. If anyone finds anything that they find objectionable in the children’s section, they can sue the librarians.

      There’s literally no way to protect yourself against this but to bar all children from the library, unless they have parental supervision. This ensures that the parent remains liable since they have become an obligated chaperone while inside the library.

      There’s no way to actually remove all the “offensive” content from the children’s section, because there’s no way to actually know what books that the extremists this law was created to enable will object to next.

      That it has the added effect of humiliating the Republicans who passed it by showing what it logically leads to, and angering parents who can no longer drop their kids off at the library, may be helpful in opposing this, but it looks like it’s just the predictable result of short-sighted reactionary lawmaking.

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      I’m sure the very people who put out these laws are going to be extremely bothered by libraries preventing kids from accessing cheap culture and education

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        True enough, but I think their aim is at citizens moreso than politicians. I would wager a lot of average folks probably weren’t even aware of the law being passed, stuff like this brings it more attention. Is it effective? No idea, I don’t live in Idaho. I wouldn’t be surprised it isn’t that effective, given how conservative most of Idaho is. But, I can respect libraries from at least trying to do something about it.

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          I don’t think the people who vote for this actually care. They’ve been told that every other book in them libruhries have them gay sex things, and that’s enough for them to cheer for it.

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    I posted this on my FB feed. One lady argued that it was down to parental rights to control what their kids consumed. I said just stay out of the public library and public schools, but she said that was not a “good faith” argument.

    The irony is using “good faith” to impose their beliefs onto others was lost on her.

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    So the under 18 mother who was forced to carry a child can’t take that child to a library or even go herself.

    Yep, that tracks.

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    As a rabblerouser above 18, if I browse the Restricted Stacks and accidentally forget them in the YA stacks, how much shit would those librarians be put through?

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      Why bother with that? I say go full Robin Hood, steal the restricted books and give them away to the youth. Or, if you’ve got the resources, run a black market library. It would be kinda like a speakeasy, with a password and a doorman and shit. Call it a “readeasy”? Since you’re not supposed to talk in a library and all that.

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      I’d say, whatever you do, it has to be obvious that the librarians are innocent. So I’d say ‘accidentally’ forgetting the stacks in the wrong section is out.

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      They’re not playing the game in good faith. Please don’t help the bad people shut down libraries.

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      Oh, don’t lose faith in humanity because of this. This is only happening in the US.

      extremist right wins votes in Europe

      Oh, shh…

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    I wonder how much money is spent on paper and ink for the affidavits. And I guess the extra workers, inside and outside of the library, needed to process and file them all.

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      Hah! You think they actually put in place the infrastructure needed to support this asinine policy. If there aren’t enough people to get the affidavits signed then those kids can’t go expose themselves to dangerous ideas, presumably including “trans people exist” and “slavery was bad, actually”.

      See also voter ID laws that just happen to come into effect as the DMV offices in poor and/or black neighborhoods close down. If they make it a sufficient pain in the ass they don’t have to take the legal or political flak for outright banning it.

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        Yes, it seems that I stupidly overlooked that the purpose isn’t to make things difficult to look at via bureaucracy but instead to make things impossible to look at via the lack of resources to comply.