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    No no you don’t understand. You shouldn’t be taking it literally it’s an allegory - many theists probably

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        Yes, and if they had a word for whale specifically, it was considered a type of large fish.

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          Now, the text doesn’t say “God appointed a whale” but just “a great fish.” Both the original Hebrew dag gadol and the Greek of the Septuagint, kētei megalōi, translate as “huge fish.” Archaeology has proved that the Mediterranean was once home to a great variety of whales —which the Romans hunted almost to the point of extinction. It might be the case that the author of the biblical text simply wanted to contrast Jonah’s “closed mouth” to that of the “big fish,” able not only to swallow a whole human being but also being hollow enough as to provide him with safe shelter for three days and three nights. Interestingly enough, during those three days Jonah certainly keeps his mouth open — he seems to spend them praying out loud.

          But how did this “big fish” turn into a whale and not into one of the 47 species of sharks found in the Mediterranean? It seems St. Jerome is to blame.

          https://aleteia.org/2021/07/15/jonah-was-not-swallowed-by-a-whale

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            Does it really matter whether it was a whale or a “fish”? You can’t live in either, so it’s a BS story in a book of fairytales people take way too seriously.

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    But that book is the only thing that keeps them from going on murderous rampages. Coming to think of it, it’s not even very good at stopping the murderous rampages.

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      The Crusades, the Inquisition, the war in the middle east - all Abrahamic-religiously motivated murderous activities.

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      It certainly does not stop them from raping. However reading the Bible, it seems it actually encourages both murder and rape.

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    How about Numbers 31:17-18 where Moses says:

    Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

    But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

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      Definitely not as sex slaves, as a certain religious person I know argues, as apparently that would be intermarriage and forbidden! They just have to live with the trauma of having their entire family brutally murdered before them, and then being enslaved to the murderers for the rest of their lives. So much better!

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    If you read it the right way, the book of Jonah reads like a really weird episode of Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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        A narcissistic asshole gaslighting its victims into believing they’re not really victims because the narcissistic asshole made a bet.

        It’s supposed the be an explanation for how evil can exist despite a benevolent creator… but it sums up as a sock puppet to which the explanation is “you wouldn’t understand”

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          It’s also completely undermined in Isaiah.

          I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

          Isaiah 45:7. Evil exists because God creates evil.