• Aux@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Musk is not getting billions worth salary. You can’t hire 500,000 people using his package. Unless you believe that these workers should be eating shares instead of food.

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      5 months ago

      Once the shares vest then he can get the money. The point still stands, just not immediately.

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        5 months ago

        The point doesn’t stand, because you can’t get 500,000 people.

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            5 months ago

            There is currently a huge labor shortage in the united states, particularly for engineers and skilled craft and trades people. There’s no fucking way they would be able to hire 10,000, let alone 500,000 people. Hell, my company has had two engineering positions open for 2 years and we have had zero applicants. Zero!

            Everybody just wants to be retired or be a social media influencer these days, with that amazing side hustle as a door dasher.

            • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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              5 months ago

              It is a hard labor market, but we’ve been able to hire engineering positions. If you’re not getting applicants, get a better recruiter.

              The real issue is our backwards immigration system. We should be expanding immigration when labor is short, not talking about restrictions. If they wanted, they could lobby for better immigration with that $56B instead of giving it to someone who already has hundreds of billions.

              Also, many Teslas aren’t built in the US anyway, so there’s not much stopping them from looking elsewhere for labor.

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            5 months ago

            Ok, imagine the following scenario. Tesla decides not to pay Musk and hire all these people instead. Would you join the workforce? They will give you share options with a three year vesting period and zero salary. Go on, join them on these conditions!

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      5 months ago

      You can offer shares to employees to supplement salary, its very common. It could be used to attract or retain staff by offering less salary but a larger overall package than their rivals and tie in the employees for a period of time till the shares vest.

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      5 months ago

      Even if the shares drop by 90% of their value after distribution and liquidation, that’s still 50,000 people you could pay 100,000.

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      5 months ago

      It’s still incredibly stupid to dilute your own votes and give him more votes…

      They could also sell shares to raise money to hire more people…

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      I’ve read that all they’re doing is diluting the current shares, so in essence the current shareholders are screwing themselves over by devaluing their own shares.

      Pretty dumb