• VirtualOdour@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    People who actually care see Biden working to mitigate the problems in Isreal without being totally knee-jerk and making everything much worse - just letting all the jews die is not going to make things better, yes I understand that a small portion of the loud left want this but most the country recognizes its far worse than the current situation and things are super complex. Just pulling funding from Isreal is not an option that any but a very small and extreme portion of the country want, the reality is Biden position is fairly popular and even sided.

    And again it is only the very very extreme left who want open boarders, most the left support border controls to some extent. Biden has hugely reduced deportation while Trump wants ‘the biggest deportation operation in history’ Biden allowed the building of a wall Trump started and hasn’t built more, has fought to make boarders less aggressive and to provide help for those at boarders. Biden also ended family separation at the border. Saying they’re the same because neither are extreme anti-boarder is just disingenuous.

    The reality is soft on boarders or hard on Isreal would lose more votes than it wins.

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      6 months ago

      And again it is only the very very extreme left who want open boarders,

      No one in all of America wants the fucking borders open for literally everyone

      That is not the only other option to Biden using executive actions to make some stupid shit trump did actual law…

      I get that’s it’s early, but why did that need explained?

      Who the fuck told you that? And why would you ever believe them?

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        6 months ago

        Exactly what I’m saying, almost no one wants totally open boarders so people attacking Biden for not doing that are ridiculous.

        Left purity culture doesn’t care about reality, Biden has done reasonable things but it doesn’t matter because no one looks to check if they agree they simply assume that it must be bad because government bad. Biden bad, everyone but me bad…

        This is why people don’t say what they actually want, they don’t support anything - open boarders bad, restrictions on boarders bad, closed boarders bad… you can be against everything when your only defining principle is that you’ll always consider yourself more radical or better than anyone else.

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          6 months ago

          Exactly what I’m saying,

          I don’t think so…

          I’m saying when that is presented as what people want Biden to do, and anyone complaining about his recent illegal moves wants, it’s bullshit.

          It’s like when Faux News says Biden is a communist.

          The media does this, so that you think their views are nonsensical and you dismiss them without actually listening to them.

          You’re falling for it…

          Because you’re still acting that anyone against Biden’s recent border actions, could only want fully open borders. When literally no one serious wants fully open borders.

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            Yes but the people complaining are largely people who would complain about literally anything - if its pizza for dinner then he’s bad for not making pasta, if it’s pasta then we wanted soup…

            Most people know it’s pointless to take them seriously because they’re not being serious, they’re simply trying to use the strongest words to condemn every single position and action he takes because their underlying self image is based on seeing themselves as better and more moral than the rest of society.

            This is hugely common, Christians do it all the time - im too holy and moral to have time to spare to participate in society… it’d a cop out and nothing more.

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              6 months ago

              You’re acting like human rights abuses in multiple countries that also break US law is just a big ole “nothing burger”…

              And I don’t think I’m going to be able help here