Mark Rober for me, seems like he wants to be Mr. Beast Lite or something lately.
Same here, seems like less and less substance each video. They’re all just there to promote his monthly subscription box
That’s like 99% of successful YouTube stars. They get their own product and then boom that’s all their videos are made for ads. Good thing sponser skip exists on non native YouTube players.
SponsorBlock*
A little while back he had a video I think it was the anti-drone one, well over half the videos runtime was an ad.
I get that it’s an interesting product but how can you have a 20 minute video and have 10 minutes of that video be you promoting your own product?
Mark is very lazy recently. Nothing wrong with that, after doing the same job for so long, it’s only natural, but I don’t enjoy his content as I used to.
He was always very “science for the whole family” but recent videos seem to skew very heavily into kids content without much clever science content
I would generally agree with this sentiment, but I do enjoy all of the safety 3rd crew showing up regularly.
I assume this is someone else than Roz, Liam and November
The safty 3rd crew have become lazy as hell too, i gave up on them
They’ve all generally been doing the same content as usual aside from William Osman with his project burnout and preoccupation with OpenSauce if you don’t count his second channel vlogs since it’s not the same. Allen, Peter, and Nigel have kept their uploads consistent, Kevin’s have slowed over the years. Even their regular guests have stayed consistent as far as I can tell.
I duno to me it feels like the entire bunch has kinda become more interested in their own celebrity than making interesting science videos. The point when I decided to fall off was around the time Allen made that video about snake legs, it felt so lazy and half hearted, its like why am I watching this?
Holy shit, William Osman just posted an hour ago. I guess I’m still subscribed.
Thanks for the heads up lol
Oh yeah like his recent video of if you pour molten larva over a can of baked beans it blows up. Wow, really interesting.
Recently, I noticed that a lot of the YouTube recommendations I was seeing were folks based out of Utah. My wife calls it Mormon YouTube. Outdoors Boys, Matt’s Offroad Recovery, Brandon Sanderson, and a few more Mormon adjacent channels started popping up everywhere. I started wondering what I had watched that started brining all these other things up.
It’s Mark Rober.
Add JerryRigEverything to that list. His wife is literally a Mormon motivational speaker and they built a survival bunker (which is a Mormon thing, in addition to just being kinda cool).
Rich people with free time.
Been saying this for years! I think when Mark did the video with the huge air horn is when I caught on and stopped watching the Mormon crew. Weirded me out
Yeah, I wouldn’t say really that his channel has gotten objectively worse, just that he has realized that 90% of people who watch his channel are children and he has aimed his channel towards them - I just have to accept that I am no longer the target audience.
Yup, it was more of a deep dive into the engineering and thoughts about how he tackles difficult tasks. Just watched his recent video where he was pretty much a shitty mythbusters without the engineering or the lead up to the test. Just stupid countdowns to explosions.
My wife was watching it with me and asked if that was a recap or was that the actual video? Because she felt it was so lacking compared to his earlier glitter bomb videos.
I was legitimately sad when I had to stop watching AvE.
His content quality had dropped but I still watched because I enjoyed his delivery. But when he started praising the Canadian convoy protestors, it completely ruined his channel for me. And then he kept espousing awful politics and I couldn’t watch anymore.
The warning signs were there earlier when he pushed a crypto pump and dump on his channel. I’d already pretty much stopped watching his videos after that and then the covid stuff happened. I was also a bit sad to hit unsubscribe.
But thankfully years ago I discovered This Old Tony who scratches a similar itch for me, but better. Much slower uploads, but far higher quality.
I somehow missed the crypto thing. Gross.
This Old Tony is awesome.
NNKH also is good too, a bit different but if you like watching a mechanically knowledgeable dude just fixing on shit, it’s good stuff. Seems like a genuinely decent guy too.
I dropped him when he showed a picture of snow outside his garage and said it was proof there was no such thing as climate change.
I might have given that a pass as a joke because at one point I thought he was a smart man. Knowing what I know now about him, I probably wouldn’t.
People who say shit like that don’t just need to be unsubbed from, they need a special department of the US government to land a chopper outside their house, deploy a team of skilled face-slappers to smash through the person’s window with flashbangs, tie him to a chair and just slap him across the face as hard as they can and then leave.
I would pay my share in taxes to make this unit a reality.
AvE is Canadian but they need a similar department too.
Came here to say this.
Me too. What a waste.
Yeah, same here. Genuinely a sad moment when I decided I couldn’t separate the art from the artist.
Despite dropping him from my subscribers list for a while, I still occasionally say doll-hairs and scookum as fuck.
Many of his sayings have stuck with me, too. But I’m find myself using them less and less due to the association.
I agree, when he started shitting on bourbon moth woodworking for some conspiracy theory about him faking content I had to quit his channel.
I definitely know what ave is. No need to type out the whole thing.
He just goes by AvE. If you search for that on YouTube, his channel comes right up. I wouldn’t suggest doing that, though.
Ah, I stand corrected
COVID turned his brain inside out.
My ex was very into ltt when they were just getting off the ground, and I thought the content was trash but I stuck with it so I knew wtf the latest video was about so I could be prepared to discuss it. Then started the bell curve of ‘decent’, then for a very short time ‘good’ and almost ‘enjoyable’, then sliding down the other side of the bell curve back to ‘decent’, and now it’s just actual garbage.
I only remain a subscriber for the weekly wan show, and that is wearing on me too. Linus just can’t shut the fuck up to save his life, and he interjects more than a helicopter parent. He seems like a decent guy but I want to punch him in the face regardless.
I’ve been a subscriber to gn for like a decade now and the quality of the content is just night and day. I feel like the poor editors at ltt are pumping out stuff that would be cool if if was 2004 and they were using windows movie maker. But it’s just sad for everyone who got pulled into this toilet vortex, and the people who actually have skills are being ignored for the lulz and the most basic of internet humor. At least Arby n The Chief didn’t try to cast itself as a serious, educational show. “my roflcopter goes soisoisoisoisoi” was great for that. Ltt at that level is just awful.
I’d absolutely love to see Emily (I think that’s her name…) break away and start her own channel. Their knowledge dwarfs all the other presenters, and they actually know what the fuck they are talking about, instead of half-assing a script and going ‘yolo lolololol money is no object for short-term internet fame’.
Yup, unsubscribe after Gamers Nexus called em out. A lot of shit came to light and there still hasn’t been any update on the Madison situation. Finding out Yvonne was head of HR, Linus being anti-union, sexual harassment, etc. A lot of scummy stuff going on, and Linus turning into a rich out of touch douchebag instead of a regular douchebag.
Definitely agree that some of their talent should start there own channels.
I had seen a post here a few days ago where they hired a third party to go over the allegations that Madison made, and they were essentially cleared however long after, but were also told that they still need to work on reporting and hr stuff. Which to me indicates that there was probably no documentation made if they did happen, so it would be impossible to audit like two years later, because being ignored when she told someone about the sexual harassment was one of her complaints. However, maybe you trust a neutral third party because taking the side of the company every time means their reputation for neutrality would be worthless, which means their business is dead. But in LTT’s statement they made it clear that while they did believe there was enough in their report to justify a defamation case, they just want to leave it behind them. Great stuff to include in your statement /s.
Which to me indicates that there was probably no documentation made if they did happen, so it would be impossible to audit like two years later, because being ignored when she told someone about the sexual harassment was one of her complaints.
When a law firm does an internal investigation, it’s about judging the risk to the company if things were to go to court and not about if the events actually happened. So things like a lack of documentation is exactly what they are looking for. By using someone that can be considered to be a neutral third party, they can get the accuser to divulge whatever evidence they also have. You’re not lying, the firm isn’t there to make you look innocent, but you are clipping the leverage of the accusing party.
So, if the accuser says that they have a journal, or witnesses, or recordings, then you as a corporation then act to stop them from pressing forward. You fire someone, you pay them out, you say “oh, if only I knew about this we would’ve done something sooner”, etc. This generally costs less than actual court and what would be ruled against you.
If the accuser has nothing, and you also have nothing that would shake loose in an actual investigation for your requirement to provide a safe workplace, then you can say things like “look, we paid someone to look into things, and it is looks like we’re all good. We’re going to put some policies in place to make sure that IF something like that every happens, that we can…”It’s like a voir dire without the actual trial. If things go to trial, well, you already know what your defences are.
‘We paid someone to clear ourselves and they found nothing wrong’ is my favorite business move.
I unsubscribed after their video on Android TV boxes having malware because it was full of holes. But that was just the straw that broke the camel’s back. Their Linux coverage was atrocious. There were so much flat out wrong with their Linux challenge and much other Linux content. Their stuff on servers and selfhosting was ALWAYS fucking amateur hour. They ran a line between buildings and tested throughput with Windows file manager for fuck’s sake… god forbid they use a real tool like iperf or something.
I unsubbed a few weeks before the gn video dropped and that was just reaffirmation… and then some. Because I had thought they were at least getting the gamer bro stuff and benchmarks right but apparently they weren’t even doing that correctly. And that’s on top of all the other shit like the anti-union and sexual harassment. That entire channel is a joke, it’s a shame he has so many subs and misleads so many people with misinformation.
I have a similar sentiment about Linus. He seems like he is overall a decent person, and I bet we would probably even be decent friends if we were to meet at a time before LTT/LMG, but I agree about wanting to punch him in the face sometimes. Some of the things he decides to dig his heels in about and be stubborn are really annoying. If he were just one of my friends, it would be pretty easy to either have a rational conversation with him or decide not to engage seriously and roast him about it, but instead he has a very large platform and a certain amount of influence that makes some of his takes a little more frustrating/damaging.
All of that said, I have still had worse bosses and the bulk of my career has probably been spent working at much less fun companies.
I’m not sure where I was going with that other than acknowledging that nuance exists and that he isn’t evil or anything, just annoying.
What makes anyone say Linus is a good person? Genuine question.
I would likely in turn ask what makes him a bad person?
As I alluded to I have plenty of criticisms of him, but does that make him a bad person? Maybe using the terms “good” and “bad” are a bit too binary. Like a lot of things in life those terms can be at least somewhat subjective and most people exist on a spectrum. Most people however don’t have large portions of their personality exposed to the world to see, nor do they have the livelihoods of over 100 people relying on that personality. I know for a fact that if my personality were broadcast to as many people as his is there are plenty of people who would take issue with certain aspects of it.
As to why I don’t lump him in with people like Elon Musk or Jack Welch? He doesn’t strike me as being a complete self interested sociopath. He seems like he is usually trying to do right by those around him and that he does care about those people. For example the turnover rate at LMG is very low in comparison to other related industries. If he were that terrible to his employees it’s pretty hard to retain people as smart and talented as a lot of them are if they don’t like it there.
I could come up with a lot of examples where he made some pretty bad decisions or how he doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up, but does that make him a bad person? At worst he strikes me as someone a bit brash and ambitious that got really lucky before learning how to temper that and is now having to learn it as he goes along while sometimes being in over his head.
Cr1TiKaL for me. I used to love him like 12 years ago when it was mostly just stupid stories over gameplay clips. Once he started showing his face and doing mostly lazy reaction and drama videos I really lost interest. Good on him for finding success, but man, I miss his old content sometimes.
Oh man yes, video game content aside, the flavor of the month posting and hot take machine from a dude who is incredibly insulated and wealthy now. It’s a drag.
The machine trys to feed it to you when you are trying to get good video game commentary now too. Practically have to block him and analogues of him.
His speedruns of unknown games were as good as it got
Game Theory is the same where it went to garbage when he started showing his face
I watched him since his team noble days.
Just dry ass commentary with a funny story.
Now? It’s all about virtual signaling and commenting on shit he has no involvement in.
They’re slaves to the algorithm. The algorithm favors the obnoxious.
Says a lot about where our society is going.
I know someone is going to make it sound easier than what it really is, but having to sift through the site, fighting against the algorithm’s sorting to find something you like is hard.
I hate how it somehow decided I was interested in Brexiters’ woes and keep pushing an insane amount of videos about it in my feed, and the more I tell it I’m not interested, the more they pop up. it legitimately makes me reconsider my YouTube premium membership.
having to sift through the site, fighting against the algorithm’s sorting to find something you like is hard.
This has been me since… sometime in 2019, I believe. At some point around then, there was a very noticeable change in the videos being suggested to me. I noticed it almost immediately.
go tell the dude doing the sitting and smiling stream about the algorithm.
not every creator cares unconditionally about it
Babish the instant he became the babish culinary universe. No complaints, just unsub and move on.
Funny enough he’s found a new niche he’s been comparing tons of different brands for various food items and ranking them. Actually really informative and useful… I’ve found some new foods I love through that.
I agree. He completely burnt himself out a year or so ago (a bit after BCU) and he wasn’t even creating content for the channel. I’m still subbed, but I just watch the odd thing when I’m a bit bored.
Alvin is now old babish and is a nice change of pace
Babish is more a personality now. So Alvin is the recreation cook
I’m honestly only subscribed for Alvin now. I like Andrew, but I don’t really think “Basics” is basic any more.
I learnt a lot of cool things to help with my cooking from watching babish, that episode with that chef from New Orleans taught me a lot about cooking.
I used to follow HeelvsBabyFace because he liked to do out-of-bounds videos of World of Warcraft (going to places in the game you weren’t suppose to).
Then he suddenly started posting MAGA-style rants (woke this, pronouns that) and I had to bail out.
Not a difficult decision, but I was very disappointed.
It’s hard to tell if the youtubers are getting more annoying or if its my tastes that are changing. Probably both tbh
Damn, I don’t know any of the YouTubers mentioned on the comments here. YouTube is so big now.
That’s probably for the best lol
Codebullet. Went from absolute gem of niche content to over the top low-effort content aimed at teens, who presumably bring in the most ad revenue.
idk man his videaos are still entertaining and hes been doing this for a long time i honestly think that because hes done this for a while hes mellowing out on the effort part and just enjoying being a creator no need to burn yourself out for every vid
I understand that he had reasons. I personally prefer one good video per year over what he outputs now. I used to be a Patreon for years, also in the one where he didn’t post anything. I am prepared to wait for quality, but this is of course an antithesis to YouTube’s algorithm.
If you want similar, yet opposite, I would suggest Sebastian Lague. He has a slow output of high quality videos, which are interesting “coding adventures” where he goes in depth about learning some aspect of software. He’s much more relaxed than Code Bullet, but he’s similar in that the videos are primarily about the process of implement some project and showing the failures along the way.
Oh I’ve been watching Sebastian for years! But codebullet was just so funny and light. Sebastian has some humour, sure, but his videos are all about progress, discovery and learning. I appreciate the suggestion though, thanks!
I’m pretty sure he said as much when he started doing more short-form facecam videos.
Yeah he was very straight up with it. And I think kept it to the other channel as promised?
Yeah I agree. He jokes about things being low effort but they actually are as it feels. Maybe it’s gotten better I haven’t watched in quite some time but he uploads very infrequently too last time I checked.
Did the YouTuber regress, or did you outgrow the content? CB always took shots at the low prod values and laziness of his videos.
I know he awful and his content has gone down hill but I still have a soft spot for jontron
You’re telling me you don’t like waiting 9 months for him to spend 2 minutes advertising the shittiest pay to win mobile game followed by watching some mid 2000s bullshit with a few reactions? Maybe you just aren’t a real fan
I still love the old binging with babish videos, but his new stuff just seems to cater to the algorithm. I only stay subscribed for the anything with Alvin videos. I’m happy for babish and his success, but his new content ain’t for me.
Same for me with Josh weismann. I want to watch cooking videos not the 50 tiktok food tends (nr47 Will shock you)
Joshua was always annoying as fuck
Papa likey
Barf
At least YSAC’s still cooking better than ever.
(You Suck At Cooking for anyone wondering)
Speaking of Alvin, for anyone who didn’t know, he’s recovered his own channel and has recently uploaded!
“Recently” meaning three months ago lol, but yeah Alvin’s content is great.
PewDiePie after he reached 100 million.
There’s no effort anymore in his content, just turn on the camera and record whatever is in his mind at the moment.
I stopped watching after he aided in the platforming of Ben Shapiro and said the glass ceiling didn’t exist. That and the n word scandal.
He never struck me as someone who put any real effort into his videos. It was mostly just him just yelling about stuff.
I never understood his market appeal.
It was mostly just him just yelling about stuff
Seems to be the winning approach to videos, sadly
Eh, it’s not like his videos were ever particularly effort-heavy. He’s always just made what he felt like making, and I respect that even though I don’t like his content anymore either.
He never gave up his integrity and now he’s just doing what he loves and living life, while presumably also providing a great life for his daughter. So when he pops up on my feed I just feel happy for him, and I scroll on by.
Basically a family vlogger. We still watch it as it’s cool to see Japan. Also he’s a “familiar face” type of guy.
Wait, he lives in Japan now?
Joshua Weissman over here. Dude just became repetitive childish annoying memes. Papa needs to shut the fuck up and just cook.
God for real I feel like it really ramped up when he moved to the bigger kitchen
And it’s a shame because his early videos out of the smaller apartment were so cozy and chill. Now it’s all aggressive and tiktokified
Just another Monday for me by now… Have had to put so many once-beloved channels out to pasture. I really love YouTube for what it was (and still mostly is), making entertainment content something more personal than traditional TV… but it’s changing. And change isn’t inherently bad.
I will say that I’m having a harder time nowadays finding new content on YT that measures up. Just started a trial for Curiosity Stream today, and there are other platforms, too.
Check out Peter Dibble if you like historical documentaries focused around the West Coast US/PNW.
Curiosity stream still exists?
Pfft only if you’re a nerd that likes to learn stuff AND pay people who put in time and effort.
Blech.
Good creators should be paid for their work, hence why I subscribe to Nebula and watch YT with ads (although there are so many I’ll be pushed back to Nebula, and I won’t get YT premium on principle).
