"Texan Craig Adlong. He pleaded guilty in 2020 for lying on firearm transaction forms, saying the guns were for his personal use. He purchased 95 semi-automatic rifles at Guns Unlimited in Katy, Texas, making seven visits over two months.
Sixty-six of those firearms were recovered in Mexico, according to the leak."
How many is too many “for personal use”?
95 guns of the same type is CLEARLY not for personal use. 13 guns per visit x 7 visits? No questions?
I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.
But if you’re out buying 95 #0 Phillips screwdrivers, that’s not “for personal use”.
ATF says multiple sales of rifles must be reported. A “multiple sale” is defined as “when a licensed dealer or pawnbroker sells or otherwise disposes of, at one time or during any five consecutive business days, more than one semiautomatic rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine and with a caliber greater than .22 (including .223/5.56 caliber) to an unlicensed person.”
95 rifles in seven visits obviously qualifies. These absolutely should have been reported.
If the lever action lower can function with a semi-auto bolt and buffer system, then the ATF is gonna call it semi-auto anyway and it would still fall under that law. That lower receiver doesn’t have space for a buffer, so you’re never gonna be able to run it semi-auto. This is just a box-fed lever action instead of a tube-fed one.
Best use case I can tgink of for multiple copies of the same gun is torture tests? Or something similar where the gun is not expected to be functional afterwards. And even then >~5 is kind of excessive.
I could see that. Multiples of the same gun so you could, I dunno, test one in a salt water environment, freshwater rainforest, desert, arctic, and control.
I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.
As you need proper training on each individual gun i find it hard to believe that there is any person who reasonably needs more than 5 or 6 firearms and that includes sports, hunting and self defense
You don’t need proper training in every one, you need to be trained in pistols, rifles, and shotguns, and honestly you could probably just do long guns and hand guns, but I just feel like people should really be trained in all 3.
There are just too many differences between hunting rifles and shotguns.
I’m not even going to touch “self defense” rifles like an AR-15 because unless you live out in the sticks you will just be endangering your neighbors with how far they travel.
The dude made a distinction between an AR and a regular rifle, implying the bullet travels further if it’s launched from an AR platform. I don’t think they know much about penetration characteristics.
And each gun needs to be zeroed individually, needs to be maintained individually, behaves differently… Someone who has four hunting rifles will be a worse shot than someone who has one and uses it for everything. The notion of needing “specific tools” just stops making sense at that point.
I mean… I had a raccoon problem, right? Mom, dad, three babies. Babies were cute, but were tearing up the place and screaming, OMG, like 1,000 cat fights every night.
But the problem was dad was getting aggressive, hanging out on the roof, and showing ZERO fear of people.
Now I COULD have picked up my grandfathers .30-06, but then the problem then would have been scraping raccoon parts off the roof and nobody has time for that.
So I went the other direction. Took my dad’s 1000fps pellet rifle and shot him in the ass. Not only did he set off running, he took mom and babies with him.
"Texan Craig Adlong. He pleaded guilty in 2020 for lying on firearm transaction forms, saying the guns were for his personal use. He purchased 95 semi-automatic rifles at Guns Unlimited in Katy, Texas, making seven visits over two months.
Sixty-six of those firearms were recovered in Mexico, according to the leak."
How many is too many “for personal use”?
95 guns of the same type is CLEARLY not for personal use. 13 guns per visit x 7 visits? No questions?
I can see buying multiple guns in different form factors, because they’re a tool like anything else, and you need the right size tool for the job.
But if you’re out buying 95 #0 Phillips screwdrivers, that’s not “for personal use”.
ATF says multiple sales of rifles must be reported. A “multiple sale” is defined as “when a licensed dealer or pawnbroker sells or otherwise disposes of, at one time or during any five consecutive business days, more than one semiautomatic rifle capable of accepting a detachable magazine and with a caliber greater than .22 (including .223/5.56 caliber) to an unlicensed person.”
95 rifles in seven visits obviously qualifies. These absolutely should have been reported.
Hey, TIL! But I’ve never bought more than one semi-automatic rifle at a time so that tracks!
Have you seen the way gun makers are getting around that restriction now?
The new hotness is LEVER ACTION AR-15s:
https://www.offgridweb.com/gear/new-bond-arms-lever-action-ar-15/
https://fightlite.com/hlr-556bpm
Those have detachable magazines. They fall under this category.
Lever action is not semi automatic though. Needs both characteristics.
If the lever action lower can function with a semi-auto bolt and buffer system, then the ATF is gonna call it semi-auto anyway and it would still fall under that law. That lower receiver doesn’t have space for a buffer, so you’re never gonna be able to run it semi-auto. This is just a box-fed lever action instead of a tube-fed one.
Excuse me, but do not crush my dream of diving into a pit filled with #0 Phillips screwdrivers.
Hey, that isn’t too far from me! I’m absolutely SHOCKED.
Best use case I can tgink of for multiple copies of the same gun is torture tests? Or something similar where the gun is not expected to be functional afterwards. And even then >~5 is kind of excessive.
I could see that. Multiples of the same gun so you could, I dunno, test one in a salt water environment, freshwater rainforest, desert, arctic, and control.
But 95? Yeah, no.
As you need proper training on each individual gun i find it hard to believe that there is any person who reasonably needs more than 5 or 6 firearms and that includes sports, hunting and self defense
You don’t need proper training in every one, you need to be trained in pistols, rifles, and shotguns, and honestly you could probably just do long guns and hand guns, but I just feel like people should really be trained in all 3.
There are just too many differences between hunting rifles and shotguns.
I’m not even going to touch “self defense” rifles like an AR-15 because unless you live out in the sticks you will just be endangering your neighbors with how far they travel.
Actually studies show that a proper .223 or 5.56 JHP (or soft, varmint, or frangible) penetrates less through drywall than 00 buck.
I mean, yeah, the steel core penetrators will zip right through, but that isn’t on the gun that’s on you not knowing what ammo to use.
The dude made a distinction between an AR and a regular rifle, implying the bullet travels further if it’s launched from an AR platform. I don’t think they know much about penetration characteristics.
LOL tbf I thought he was talking about overpenetration, but upon rereading I think you’re right haha.
And each gun needs to be zeroed individually, needs to be maintained individually, behaves differently… Someone who has four hunting rifles will be a worse shot than someone who has one and uses it for everything. The notion of needing “specific tools” just stops making sense at that point.
I mean… I had a raccoon problem, right? Mom, dad, three babies. Babies were cute, but were tearing up the place and screaming, OMG, like 1,000 cat fights every night.
But the problem was dad was getting aggressive, hanging out on the roof, and showing ZERO fear of people.
Now I COULD have picked up my grandfathers .30-06, but then the problem then would have been scraping raccoon parts off the roof and nobody has time for that.
So I went the other direction. Took my dad’s 1000fps pellet rifle and shot him in the ass. Not only did he set off running, he took mom and babies with him.
So, yeah, right tool for the job. ;)
Well, rifles are rifles and pistols are pistols. The skill set downgrades pretty easy, upgrading not so much.
After shooting my .45-70 Government, a .22 pea shooter is no big deal, going the OTHER way though…
Peas don’t kill people. Peasple…
Nah, never shot anything more threatening than an old school metal coffee can. Just being a gun owner doesn’t make you dangerous.
I own several hammers too, doesn’t make me a carpenter. ;)
Oh I was just making a dumb joke about calling a 22 a pea. I’m a videographer and don’t own a camera, haha.