• Carrot@lemmy.today
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    Yeah, I kinda figured this was where you were heading. You’re either very misguided or a troll. I wanted to give you an opportunity to explain your stance without devolving into name calling or insults, but at every moment you could have explained yourself, you dodged every question. You had me read a paper that I read in good faith in hopes that it would explain your point of view, because for some reason you aren’t willing to. However, the paper, while adjacent to the issue, didn’t actually condone your decision at all, nor condemn mine. I honestly can’t even tell if you yourself know what was written in that paper. It feels like I’m talking to someone who is parroting an opinion, not forming one for themselves.

    I get that it’s a hard pill to swallow, but from all ways I can find to look at it, your not voting directly supported genocide, worse than if you voted left. I get that you need to tell yourself that you are obstained from that guilt in order to sleep at night, but it doesn’t change the impact of your actions.

    At this point, considering your inability to engage in a proper discussion, I’m no longer writing for you but others who may want to continue this discussion. I really want to understand the reasons why people didn’t vote, as I haven’t heard a good explanation for it.

    Let’s be clear here, I am not a liberal. I didn’t like any candidates from either side. I hate both sides of this system and want to see it dismantled. However, I can also see that, because I live in America and am eligible to vote, I have been forced into participating in a broken system, whether I want to or not. I don’t happily claim that I voted for genocide as you appear to believe, I’m just not blind to the fact that there is no way to not vote for genocide in this system. Not voting is still an action within the system, as it directly results in a boost in favor of whatever party that opposes the party you would have voted for.

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      You just wrote a book on why we MUST do sham liberal electoral politics and advocated for voting for genocide. You’re a capitalist, you’re a liberal, and you’re clueless.

      Take your annoying trolley problem bullshit and hilariously vapid and vaccuous essays and go fuck yourself, liberal.

      Voting for genocide is exactly who you are, and no words you can muster will spill blood on my hands. Only one of us voted to condemn Palestinians: you.

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        Still hurtling insults and dodging questions. It appears that’s all you’re capable of. Have you ever had an original thought? Say whatever you need to help you sleep at night mate

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              18 hours ago

              Shouldn’t you be campaigning for another genocidal candidate? How do you have time to drop “lol” when we need to get out and voooooooote?!

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                  17 hours ago

                  Who will you vote for in 2028? Gavin? Pete? Which clown are you going to thrust in front of me and demand I vote for them? Kamala again?

                  LeSsEr eViL shit is still evil, genocide-boy.

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                    15 hours ago

                    You seem upset. I’m not trying to demand you do anything. In fact, I’d reckon we share the same views politically, in all cases except for vote/no vote. There are many people that hold the stance that not voting was the morally correct move to make. I have never seen someone defend that stance though, they all devolve into ragebaiting, just as you are now. I was really hoping I could hear why someone would obstain from voting, and the line of reasoning they used to come to the conclusion that it was morally the only correct option, because I wholeheartedly disagree, but am open to having my mind changed.

                    But you seem to be purposefully playing dense to be a troll. I would expect someone who holds such a strong opinion as yours would want to help bring people to an understanding of that strong opinion, but you don’t seem to care about that at all. From what I can tell, you just want to point fingers and feel like you are above everyone else.