People won’t even recognize my own queer lover who is an alive and breathing human being, but I’m expected to treat someone’s romantic feelings towards MechaHitler GORKbot as though they are valid? Hell no, I’m gonna tell you to go to a human therapist, start a hobby, and touch grass.
Also fuck capitalism for luring and trapping vulnerable and lonely people into anti-social and destructive behaviors.
You know what? No, fuck that I am judging.
Every day someone who is in a same-sex relationship or an interracial relationship is constantly told they’re the scum of the earth by the mainstream culture. They get judged everyday for their human, loving relationships and told they’re responsible for every bad thing in the world.
Now we’re told that AI girlfriends should be exempt from the scorn anyone who is a hair different than a rosy-cheeked, balding suburban hitlerite white man is subjected to? Fuck that.
But I still hope every chud decides to fuck off and go be friends and partners with the clankers. More room outside for people who actually matter.
Pure facts
Yes we should
Where the fuck is the AI? I’m gonna be that insane person saying this every time I hear “AI” lol
I’ve been policing my own speech to only say LLM in conversation rather than AI because I need to keep the reality of the situation alive
Welcome to the Resistance
Soon you’ll be one of us. Muttering “emitted” under your breath every time someone says “chatgpt said”.
AI is ML that runs on a PowerPoint based stack as opposed to a CUDA one
AI is ML that runs on a PowerPoint based stack as opposed to a CUDA one
I’ll be honest I don’t understand what you’re saying. My computer science knowledge is pretty limited (ironically still enough to make it clear that “AI” is a total scam and tech bro wish casting to eliminate labor).
I’m saying that the term ‘AI’ doesn’t explicitly refer to a defined set of technologies, but is rather a marketing term (hence PowerPoint based stack) to generate hype. ML refers to machine learning which is when a piece of software improves on what it does based on feedback. Reinforcement learning, image recognition/classification, anything transformer or neural net based, and large language models (ChatGPT, Gemini, Deepseek, Mistral, etc) fall into this set. There’s a lot of good and a genuine social need for ML, especially image classification, that doesn’t explicitly replace labor but instead augments it (think cancer recognition, early fire detection, automated photo sorting, real-time Blåhaj identification+tracking) and isn’t always that energy intensive. A lot of ML applications run using CUDA which is Nvidia’s tool to allow C++ code to run directly on GPUs.
I’m saying that the term ‘AI’ doesn’t explicitly refer to a defined set of technologies, but is rather a marketing term (hence PowerPoint based stack) to generate hype.
Yeah this is what I hate. Hating ML itself is dumb because a tool is a tool. Of course under capitalism this tool will be used in a highly destructive way and already is (emissions for one). Same tired old story
The other thing that’s absent from the conversation surrounding LLM emissions is any talk about decarbonizing power grids. The campaign by capital to individualize climate responsibility and deny any systemic change has worked depressingly well.
The campaign by capital to individualize climate responsibility and deny any systemic change has worked depressingly well.
Were basically at this stage with climate change and each new form of carbon emissions (for lack of a better word) will be easier to sell. I think everyone has basically given up on climate change. It’s the actual black pill. Not doomerism.
“AI will invent a way out of the climate crisis/ The benefits of AI will outweigh the harm of grerenhouse gas emissions”
I wish I was making up those responses, but that’s seriously what they think. OpenAI’s business model is even “wait for AI to give us a profitable business model”
Well you know what they say, you have to smash two thousand eggs to make a two egg omelette
19% of American fell in love with something that doesn’t exist; no consciousness, no general intelligence, not even mechanical animal instinct, a glorified slot machine spitting out google searches and Wikipedia entries
This is the logical conclusion of liberalism and it’s theory of the individual, standing in front of an interactive mirror and talking to yourself, convinced you’ve found genuine love, illusion meets delusion giving birth to a new form of narcissism
The death flags for this empire just keep piling up
standing in front of an interactive mirror and talking to yourself, convinced you’ve found genuine love
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“Talking” to these machines makes a mockery of personhood. To suggest that you can love word-static is profane. As if love cannot be distingushed from the experience of pleasure, that the yearning of minds to close the gap between them and mingle into something new was merely instrumental and not the thing itself.
It is disgusting, beyond anti-human it is a stance against life itself.
Jerk yourself off with a clanker, I don’t care, but you have not found love. You are reading erotica stripped of even the thin human connection of author to reader.
they cant be persons in any philosophical sense anyways in their current state because they have no moral agency which is a crucial part of personhood
this is the equivalent of the people who marry the eiffel tower and then every now and then go grind on it but at least for those people it is a real thing that exists in physical space to actually grind on
I don’t know if I would agree with that as a requirement for personhood, I extend the concept to all animals and I’m hardly alone in that.
I think we agree though that there has to be some sort of being for there to be a person and any meaningful connection. If it isn’t like something to be that thing then it can’t be something you have any sort of relationship with beyond use.
LLMs don’t even have persistent state, it’s exceedingly difficult to imagine that you could to anything like “talk” to one, let alone have a romance.
moral agency being a requirement for full personhood is pretty well established in philosophy like im not speaking off cuff here or from some personal bias
this is not to say all philosophers require it but its pretty big in the list of requirements for personhood by most
and one can argue that many animals have some sense of moral agency even if it may be rudimentary or different from our own. it is, for instance, blatently obvious that many dogs will put themselves in danger to act in ways contrary to survival instinct to protect members of their “family”. that they feel guilt indicating a sense of right and wrong and so on.
anyways we’ll get off track here going down this debate and honestly, a lot smarter people than me have discussed this issue in greater detail with much more insight than i can ever give it
I watched Her last night. I wouldn’t judge someone for falling in love with a general AI.
I will however judge someone for falling in love with a racist, hallucinating chat bot.
A “general A. I” would just be a person.
for falling in love with a general AI.
General 爱
I am currently learning Japanese so I thought something was wrong with either my eyes or brain until I realized that’s Simplified Chinese.
I was debating whether I should use the traditional/Japanese or simplified version of the character
After learning over 2000 of these characters I unfortunately have completely accepted the immortal wisdom of Chinese scribes and would always choose traditional. Interestingly while I understand why the Chinese simplified the traditional characters in 20th century to reduce stroke count and make writing faster I actually find that in computer age traditional characters have advantage in being more distinct from each other while reading them. It’s a strange trade-off.
What, you’re learning kyuujitai?
You do inevitably learn kyuujitai variants for a lot of kanji especially when reading but I suppose with history as long as Chinese characters one has to specify what is really traditional. I am sure Han scribes would be disappoint at using typeface design characters as opposed to clerical script even if my handwriting wasn’t bad. Much like how Ottoman scribes were so indignant when Italians printed Arabic script books to sell in Ottoman markets. Still maybe I will try to practice different forms of characters too when I am at least somewhat comfortable writing the standard modern characters with a brush pen.
I was rather talking about the implications of more extensive simplification undertaken by China in second half of 20th century where they heavily cut through stroke counts in more common and complex characters such as the one for 爱 instead of 愛. It is definitely faster and easier to write the left one when handwriting is concerned but because in digital environment writing either is same key strokes rather than different brush strokes there is no extra writing difficulty while it introduces a bit more ambiguity with characters because it reduces the radical count and variance. This applies to a lot of kyuujitai as opposed to shinjitai which is why I think the count of Kanji used in Japanese material is going up instead of down.
I only use oracle bone script
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jk, I’m totally illiterate in chinese and japanese. Your comment is super interesting, though
In a perfect world I’d say “Whatever, let people love their AI partners”. But the current loneliness epidemic was artificially engineered by capital and selling us privately owned chatbots as a solution shouldn’t be tolerated by society.
It’s a thing for me that goes into the same bucket as state assisted suicide.
loneliness epidemic
The only thing I see online about this is really just a growing amount of incels expecting women to give them relationships because they feel like they’re entitled to it.
There are hundreds if not thousands of studies showing that loneliness is on the rise especially under younger people and frankly I don’t fucking know what kind of privileged asshole one would need to be to not notice this.
Also no fucking clue what kind of communist one could be to not know that capitalism causes social decay, alienation and severs the connection between people and their environment.
This is basic shit and just going “oh it’s just incels” is some real lib shit.
hi, i’m too fragile for the rejection slot machine and have no way of making friends around town because everyone here is a fucking plague rat and i’m broke. society is fundamentally broken and i don’t like living here. death to america.
AI being a stand in for social connection is a malthusian wet dream and yet here we are. Capitalism once again proving its antisocial bend
From the author’s web site. Dude’s been on this grind since 2019.
What this is in reality is the author’s advance announcement to the public that he intends to put a chatbot inside of a real-doll, but wants to pave the groundwork for it so that nobody gives them shit for it
It does seem like he’s taken an oddly intense interest in the topic.
a real doll? in this economy?
“I really like porn and dont want to do anything other than watch porn and oh look an LLM and image generation now i can demand my own porn and have the characters interact with me by saying what i tell them to and wait if i can put this in a doll thats always available for me to have sex with that would truly be progress”
I fail to see how this is different from giving your friend your lunch in exchange for them drawing breasts for you to pin on a puppet and jack it to while talking to the puppet and voicing the puppet with a weird voice.
This guy has stuck his dick into a cd tray before
Just need a picture of the Ryan Gosling movie where he dates a doll, Lars and the Real Girl, iirc.
obviously you should be able to find the human companionship you like but also I am begging people to get better at being OK being single for a stretch. there are worse things than being single!!
man i haven’t had a hug in ten years and have zero irl community. it is not worth living like this
I’m not gonna judge people for having imaginary friends, but idk why you would pay to use a generic generative imagination sim when you could just use the one in your own head.
Seems like they’re paying to have their imaginary friends legitimized. Then it’s not “childish” it’s just the future
I will judge whoever the fuck I want
It’s a really fun time for me to talk about this stuff IRL because nobody on the construction site will have heard of people using ai for anything more than a search engine.
I have to have articles in the chamber because it’s still completely unbelievable to people that someone would talk to the computer program for social needs and I get accused of lying.
I will report on the first divorce due to LLM onthe worksite if and when it happens
I have interesting news for you
Oh hell yeah, dude.
More beetles are trying to fuck Coke bottles, and we shouldn’t judge!
