• Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Holy whataboutism, Batman!

    Just because other awful companies exist doesn’t mean that Ticketmaster/Live Nation should get to bleed people dry.

    And they may be “just” a symptom, but a tumor will kill you just as much as the underlying cancer will.

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      7 months ago

      Damn fucking straight it’s a fucking whataboutism.

      People cannot afford to go to concerts. Oh fucking boo fucking boo.

      People can’t afford their groceries or to pay their rent.

      You’re acting like going to a concert is a basic fucking necessity.

      In case you’re wondering. Yes I am fucking pissed. If Biden was half as concerned about starving families as he was swifts ticket prices… he might not be in a dead heat with an angry, insurrectionist, rapist, racist, misogynistic grifter whose facing over 90 felony indictments.

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        Damn fucking straight it’s a fucking whataboutism.

        You DO know that those are bad, right? That they’re a logical fallacy and just generally a shitty way to argue a point by not arguing it? Clearly you either don’t know or don’t care.

        People cannot afford to go to concerts. Oh fucking boo fucking boo.

        Guess what? Music is important to the vast majority of people and, unlike you and me, most people prefer to experience it live.

        You’re acting like going to a concert is a basic fucking necessity.

        Yeah, enjoying life once in a while is crucial to your mental health. Big surprise, I know 🙄

        In case you’re wondering. Yes I am fucking pissed.

        Good! Nobody reasonable is saying you shouldn’t be.

        If Biden was half as concerned about starving families as he was swifts ticket prices…

        There you go again… Two things can be wrong independently of each other. Besides, Biden isn’t even the one trying the case, so there’s no way the two things are a zero sum binary.

        he might not be in a dead heat with an angry, insurrectionist, rapist, racist, misogynistic grifter whose facing over 90 felony indictments.

        Insisting on being the chief supplier of a genocide certainly doesn’t help either. Anyway, still irrelevant.

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          7 months ago

          Biden, and his FTC has limited resources. He’s expending tax-payer-funded effort. It’s a basic cost-benefit analysis I expect better and more prudent decisions from lowest level of supervisors in my management chain.

          It’s a fallacy when they’re otherwise unrelated. They’re not unrelated in that going after one precludes the other. The FTC can only handle so many at once- and it’s Biden’s job to give them the top-level direction.

          Biden is unwilling or incapable of doing what’s necessary to protect Americans- actual, breathing Americans.

          As for experiencing live music… yeah. I get that. There’s plenty of avenues for experiencing live music that don’t involve live nation. You don’t have to go to the top stars; and chances are solid, you’ll like the experience better.

          Biden is the one directing the trade commission to go after them, so yes, it’s about Biden and his priorities. Which apparently, American families are not.

          Two things can be independently wrong. But as is the entire point I’ve been trying to make, the resources to solve them are limited. Biden, the FTC, doesn’t have the ability to go after everyone.

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            Biden, and his FTC has limited resources

            Nowhere near as limited as you seem to be imagining.

            They’re not unrelated in that going after one precludes the other

            That’s just categorically false.

            Biden is unwilling or incapable of doing what’s necessary to protect Americans- actual, breathing Americans.

            I’d be inclined to agree with you on that, but that’s still besides the point.

            There’s plenty of avenues for experiencing live music that don’t involve live nation.

            No there isn’t. That’s the problem. Bands below a certain level of popularity only get rare booking at low capacity venues and bands above that level almost invariably depend on TM/LN to book larger venues.

            The end result is that no matter whose music you prefer, you’re not likely to get to experience it anywhere near as often as you’d like without going bankrupt, unless you’re rich.

            You don’t have to go to the top stars; and chances are solid, you’ll like the experience better.

            Yeah, sometimes the “top stars” are the favorites of people and/or their peer group. It’s not a fungible thing where if you’re only into punk, a jazz festival will do in a pinch.

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              Obviously, good music that’s either free or lower cost is dependent on people’s location. I would argue that there is a significant portion of Americans that could find that music if they tried and were willing to go to shows with artists they aren’t familiar with. I personally go to a great local brewery every Thursday evening that features top quality jazz. Many of the performers are professors and/or students from Berklee College of Music. Free.