The strawman is that you assume children would ever be in their home.
I bold something there for you. Also I get you are prob some libertarian from the midwest, but please dont take some statistical anomaly and make a generalization. Besides if you are from the midwest you know that people without kids and gun often drink in combination. Are you going to argue that that is responsible gun ownership too?
I am being reasonable here. Please to ruin lemmy with bad faith takes.
Is English not your first language? ‘Their’ in that context refers to the person you were replying to: SupraMario.
And as far as Midwesterners and more specifically my political beliefs; while we Minnesotans have a proud tradition of independence, we’re not all Jesse Ventura. Our most popular party is the DFL, which is somewhat distinct from the national Democrat party, and we’ve supported (D) presidential candidates more than any other state. I’m more in the camp of ‘If you go far enough left you get the guns back’. Every gun club I’ve been a member of has had strong membership support of safe handling and storage, but what that looks like differs based on multiple factors such as whether there are children in the household. Not drinking before or during shooting is often in the club’s bylaws.
Look man, I often see the “fire extinguisher” talking point from people trying to excuse not securing their guns, and its almost always a libertarian type person. I have stuck to my point that fire arms need to be stored correctly. I am not sure why you are so aggressive about defending those who do not. Children or not we have way to lax a culture around gun safety.
And to go back to the fire extinguisher point a bit. It is meaningless. We don’t prevent fires with them. By the time we need a fire extinguisher so many other things have gone wrong.
I bold something there for you. Also I get you are prob some libertarian from the midwest, but please dont take some statistical anomaly and make a generalization. Besides if you are from the midwest you know that people without kids and gun often drink in combination. Are you going to argue that that is responsible gun ownership too?
I am being reasonable here. Please to ruin lemmy with bad faith takes.
Is English not your first language? ‘Their’ in that context refers to the person you were replying to: SupraMario.
And as far as Midwesterners and more specifically my political beliefs; while we Minnesotans have a proud tradition of independence, we’re not all Jesse Ventura. Our most popular party is the DFL, which is somewhat distinct from the national Democrat party, and we’ve supported (D) presidential candidates more than any other state. I’m more in the camp of ‘If you go far enough left you get the guns back’. Every gun club I’ve been a member of has had strong membership support of safe handling and storage, but what that looks like differs based on multiple factors such as whether there are children in the household. Not drinking before or during shooting is often in the club’s bylaws.
Look man, I often see the “fire extinguisher” talking point from people trying to excuse not securing their guns, and its almost always a libertarian type person. I have stuck to my point that fire arms need to be stored correctly. I am not sure why you are so aggressive about defending those who do not. Children or not we have way to lax a culture around gun safety.
And to go back to the fire extinguisher point a bit. It is meaningless. We don’t prevent fires with them. By the time we need a fire extinguisher so many other things have gone wrong.