your link implies that male calves all become veal, but the vast majority of male calves are brought to full weight before slaughter.
your link implies that male calves all become veal, but the vast majority of male calves are brought to full weight before slaughter.
“plants dont feel pain”.
you can’t prove that.
this is a straw man. perhaps you could try dealing with the facts and what I said.
surely you can see that there are going to need be more evidence. some kind of communication prior to the fact is probably going to need to be established.
significantly fewer plants are harvested if you switch to a fully vegan diet.
that has never happened.
If you’re eating meat, then you’re contributing to the death of all of those plants that had to feed the animals you’re eating
impossible. an event in the future cannot cause an event in the past.
I can only think of one that does: utilitarianism. it’s frought with epistemic problems not to mention it can be summed up “the ends justify the means” which most people think is itself unethical.
what do you mean by “alive”, and why should that matter?
you should still act to minimize suffering as much as possible.
under what ethical system?
if you grant plants sentience, veganism is still the more ethical option.
… for ethical systems in which sentience is a consideration.
ever heard the term “blue maga”?
Materialism really does lend itself to anti-intellectuals who think they’re so smart, doesn’t it?
this just ad hominem. it doesn’t change the truth of what i’ve said at all.
you commies are all so predictable smh
am i a commie or a conservative? this is incoherent.
Go ahead and claim I’ve committed another formal fallacy on an informal discussio
i’m pretty sure all the fallacies i’ve called out are informal.
Because you don’t have a position
i do, and i’ve said it plainly, repeatedly: being vegan doesn’t help. each year the animal agriculture industry grows, despite the existence of vegans.
bad-faith conservative you are
baby, i’m an anarchist. it’s bad faith to tell people what their politics are instead of believing them.
Link literally any source that backs your conservative, status-quo reinforcing position,
i don’t need a source. you have claimed that being vegan is better. it’s up to you to show that is the case.
You’re arguing from a position of complete nonsense, and it’s not an “appeal to ridicule” to call out bad logic and sealioning tactics.
your accusation of sealioning is bad faith
“The vast majority of people are not communist, therefore communism wouldn’t be better for workers.”
“The world isn’t powered by renewables, therefore renewables aren’t better than coal.”
“Things aren’t currently better, so no change would make it better.”
none of these accurately characterize my position
Jill can’t siphon votes from Joe, because the votes doing belong to Joe: they belong to voters, and it is you to politicians to earn votes.